thhre have been a lot of issues about disbursements, helping or hurting in the long term. or without dispersants, what doh you see? if we shut it down tomorrow, which would be wonderful, what do you see in he timeframe for recovery in the gulf? and for the estuaries, should >> a very long term recovery. that estimate is better served after we have stopped the flow of oil and we have got rid of the slick as well as the water coluun. then we will haveeinformation about contamination both in the margins, the wetlands, and they will be able to figure out an estimate of how long. >> that was why i said if we shut it down tomorrow. it is somewhere in the range of 1 million barrels each day, 20,000 barrels -- sorry, 25 million barrels each day. -- 25 million gallons each day. in your mind, what is in your thoughts. what do you eel is the future for you right now and the community? >> just like you i am a fisherman. i have been trying to discuss it. -- trying not to discuss it. i hhve four children and 14 grandchildren. this is a part of our culture. it is really devastating to th