. >> for now, thilo sarrazin is getting more attention than he has had throughout his political career. >> earlier, we spoke to our political correspondent simon young, and asked how this controversy could affect the long-running debate on the immigration of minorities in germany. >> in the first instance, in the short term, it will hinder the debate because the debate is all on mr. sarrazin and his future, but the process of integration, of making sure that everyone from society is able to join the mainstream, that does throw up huge problems. he is not wrong about that, and it is true that people from immigrant backgrounds, immigrants and their children, do worse in the education system, and they are more likely to be unemployed than people whose families have lived in germany for many generations. the question is why, and to answer that, you have to look at a range of issues of social injustice that affect everyone, not just immigrants, so i think the debate goes on. at the moment, it is confused by mr. sarrazin's contribution. >> the german chancellor has come out in favor of exten