thiogp said using s to replace coal is a no-brainer.that it's the job of energy companies to meet demand. and the job of governments to change that demand. the u said that gas is critical for an achievable, affordable, sustainable, and secure decarbonization of the global energy system. they also respectfully disagree that there is no room for more natural gas. lorne: that's the thing that the gas industry completely overlooks. reporter: this is lorne stockman, who heads the research at oil change international, a climate advocacy group. lorne: they're locked into this kind of fantasy that their fossil fuel is the one that is okay and can grow and still has room for growth. d that the others will, you know, carry the burden of getting us to our emissions goals. and there's really not a credible climate scenario in which gas can grow. reporter: but that really begs the question -- if we need to use less gas, what should we use instead? well, most importantly, we should tap cleaner energy sources, like wind and solar. which are, by and la

thiogp said using s to replace coal is a no-brainer. anthat it's the job of energy companies to meet demand. and the job of governments to change that demand. the u said that gas is critical for an achievable, affordable, sustainable, and secure decarbonization of the global energy system. they also respectfully disagree that there is no room for more natural gas. lorne: that's the thing that the gas industry completely overlooks. reporter: this is lorne stockman, who heads the research at oil change international, a climate advocacy group. lorne: they're locked into this kind of fantasy that their fossil fuel is the one that is okay and can grow and still has room for growth. and that the others will, you know, carry the burden of getting us to our emissions goals. and there's really not a credible climate scenario in which gas can grow. reporter: but that really begs the question -- if we need to use less gas, what should we use instead? well, most importantly, we should tap cleaner energy sources, like wind and solar. which are, by a