would you just end the suspense for all of us and tell uu how thissmovie ends? i think we're all, we're all a little worried about what we're seeing and we hope it's going to be better than it is now. >> keller: well, i mean, i should preface this is, by saying i'm a chronic optimist and, and, and . >> smith: that's no fun. >> keller: i know. i know. and i'm particularly an optimist about my own paper. i mean, the one statistic you didn't recite is thaa readership is phenomenally up if you count the online accesssto news. >> smith: right3 >> keller: i mean the times at its peak sold nnarly two million sunday paaers, and a million and a half during the week. it's well down from that. >> smith: right. >> keller: but we have upwards of forty millionn3 unique visitors every month for the website so we're available everywhere on the planet. if you've got an internet service provider. >> smith: right. >> keller: so. >> smith: and on a number of different devices. &-course any way you waat to get it you can get it. >> keller: any way you want to get it, you can get it