thomas didn't give up. trying to handcuff somebody who doesn't want to be handcuffed is not an easy task. the officers were holding down his shoulders, they were holding down his legs so he couldn't kick them, and, finally, they were able to get him handcuffed. >> anthony thomas is finally subdued and cuffed and taken to the lorain county jail. >> mr. thomas came into the department on a contempt-of- court charge, which is a low-grade misdemeanor. he left our department with a felony assaulting an officer charge. all when he was going to be released on a summons for the first one. >> thomas pleads not guilty to assault and obstructing official business. he's convicted and sentenced to time serve d and three years probation. officer whit sustains minor injuries. he's back at work on his next scheduled shift after the attack. >> we do not have time to be afraid. we react. if you want to be afraid or you want to think about the events or think about the dangers, it happens afterwards. that's when you think to

thomas? >> andrea, thanks so much again. this is a fluid situation. we're going to keep our eye on it. coming up at the half hour former assistant secretary of state p. crowley is going to be here and will north korea's actions lead to war? what's the tipping point, and would the u.s. take preemptive action? that is a big question. answers for you coming up at the bottom of the hour. >>> we shift gears to politics now, and republican congressman don young, now apologizing for using an ethnic slur for immigrant workers during a recent radio interview. the 40-year member of congress issued a statement yesterday reading in part, i apologize for the insensitive term i used. there was no malice in my heart or intent to offend. it was a poor choice of words, that word and the negative attitudes that come with it should be left in the 20th century. and i'm sorry that this has shifted our focus away from comprehensive immigration reform. now this was not the only controversial comment from a prominen

thomas? >> hey, joy, thank.rection in my hour on the network we reported that "the washington post" linked the new head of the secret service to the cia's interrogation program post-9/11. that article we mentioned actually referred to an unnamed cia agent who is not julia pearson. we should not have connected mrs. pearson to the cia. we sincerely apologize that, and joy, i appreciate you letting me come back on and make that clarification. >> you can come on anytime. dawn roberts said we can't te tell -- all right. do we have final thoughts on the panel? if you want to comment on the -- i don't know if you heard it, but justice thomas roberts said you can't tell a child someone has to be a friend, because it changes what -- >> i'm most fascinated you had ginsburg talking about caulk milk, scalia talking about broccoli, so obviously they're very hungry justices. >> but they're eating healthy. >> i think we expected a bombshell from scalia. 0 for 2. that guy is really softening. >> i think i could go the rest of m

up next, fiona deans hallora profiles thomas nast. the one associated with the donkey and elephant being associated with political parties. and john lewis and john carlos talk about their experiences during the civil rights movement. at 10:00 p.m. eastern, our weekly "after words" program. david bernstein sits down with a a special guest. he concludes nights programming at 11:00 p.m. eastern with sandra day o'connor in her book out of order. stories from the history of the supreme court. as a booktv.org for more information on this weekend television schedule. >> you are watching booktv on c-span2. coming up next, fiona deans hallora recounts the life of thomas nast. a regular contributor to harvard weekly, he made the donkey and the elephant the symbols of the the political parties in our country. this is about 40 minutes. [inaudible conversations] >> good evening. welcome to the historical society. i want to thank you for joining us tonight. what i know will be a very interesting program. "thomas nast." he is the father of political

now, thomas nast died broke. he lost his fortune in a series of bad investments, and as you know, he died relatively young -- 62 years old. today his work survives primarily in glimpses. there'll be a shot to demonstrate the he was anti-catholic and so was everyone else. there'll be a shot of santa on a dessert plate. there'll be a repurposed cartoon in the financial pages to demonstrate some point. and that's partly because he left his wife and family with almost nothing. his wife had to auction his belongings in several auctions in 1906 '7 and '8 in order to make ends meet, and she sold his correspondence, she sold his collection of stuff. and as a result there's basically no large collection of nast's materials anywhere. the biggest ones are at places like the huntington library where there's 91 items, some of which are repetitive. and if you are rivetted by how many easels someone owned when they died, that is for you. [laughter] but if you have questions about why he thought certain things, it's not going to

thomas, i think you're right.hey do want to see a resolution to this and what they're wanting to see a resolution to first is the out of control spending. get this out of control spending under control. and that's what we hear from both sides of the aisle, from our constituents, regardless of whether they're democrat, independent, republican, libertarian, you name it. they say, washington spends too much. you don't have a revenue problem. you have a spending problem. get it all under control. that is what we've done in the ryan budget is try to find a way to within ten years come into balance and make all of this get back on a spending plan so we move to a healthy, productive economy that will also help grow our way out of the situation. >> congresswoman, one thing, we have house speaker john boehner and the republican senator rand paul. they have differing views on whether we're truly in a debt crisis at this moment or not. take a listen. >> we do not have an immediate debt crisis. but we all know that we have on

it remains to be seen if thomas perez can shape the debate.w with the so-called gang of eight senator appearing to be in agreement, the deal seems to be looking up. the framework does not grant imimmediate legal status or allow immigrants to receive federal benefits. joining me now to discuss the path ahead for immigration reform is matt barreto. the cofounder of "latino decisions," an leading voice in latino public opinion. he joins us via skype from seattle. and from washington, d.c. "talking points memo's" political reporter benji sarlin. ben ji i want to start with you. what are the odds that the gang of at it's proposal ends up becoming law? >> it at least has a puncher's chance. but so far all of the center of gravity has really been the gang of eight. everyone has been kind of reacting to them. it's expected that the house is more likely to follow their lead than the other way around. they have the only real concrete framework of anyone involved. the only other one is the white house's which was leaked and is not a final bill. it seems

thomas? >> and anne, what are we hearing? back here at home, certainly, the media has been talking about cardinal o'malley and cardinal dolan potentially being in the running, but they've also been getting some favorable press overseas. >> they really have. and especially the italians seem to be really fond of cardinal sean o'malley of boston. they like the fact that he is a monk. that he wears robes and sandals. they like his humble presence, and they seem to think that might be a good option for the next pope. let me talk about some other people who are getting a lot of play here. the italian newspapers speculate that the person going into the conclave with the most votes is cardinal scola, who is the archbishop of milan. but they say that he is far short of the 77 votes needed the to become the next pope. other people being talked about, cardinal scherra, who is the archbishop of sao paulo, the largest catholic diocese in the world. mark ouellet, the former archbishop of quebec. he is now based here in the vatican. he is t

abc7 news reporter thomas roman is there for us. thomas? >> carolyn, anytime a police officer shoots someone, the police department takes it seriously. that's why san jose police are still working this crime scene. they have also closed off almaden road between willow glen way and willow road. goinvestigation has been going on for the past six and the evidence technicians poured over the road. from sky 7hd we can see the red honda that was involved in the shooting incident in the driveway of a home. san jose police spokesman says officers were checking out reports of a stolen car seen in the neighborhood. >> when the officers approached the vehicle, the driver immediately reversed the vehicle and pulled forward and striking the officer. >> that's when the officers made a split-second decision. >> discharged his firearm and striking the driver at least once. the passenger did sustain an injury. unknown that is whether or not that was part of the gunfire. >> the driver was a woman and her male companion were not identified. both went to the h

abc7 news reporter thomas roman is there for us. thomas? >> carolyn, anytime a police officer shoots someone, the police department takes it seriously. that's why san jose police are still working this crime scene. they have also closed off almaden road between willow glen way and willow road. the investigation has been going on for the past six and the evidence technicians poured over the road. from sky 7hd we can see the red honda that was involved in the shooting incident in the driveway of a home. san jose police spokesman says officers were checking out reports of a stolen car seen in the neighborhood. >> when the officers approached the vehicle, the driver immediately reversed the vehicle and pulled forward and striking the officer. >> that's when the officers made a split-second decision. >> discharged his firearm and striking the driver at least once. the passenger did sustain an injury. unknown that is whether or not that was part of the gunfire. >> the driver was a woman and her male companion were not identified. both went to the

nobody hated like thomas ever since. fact that he adored dolley speaks volumes about her. hostess ins her as a the white house when he needed one. catherine is up next. >> thank you for taking my call. i know that dolley madison was raised a quaker and her first husband was a quaker. she left it and married james madison. i read stories about her father freed slaves and testimony to the catalyst of slavery. i was wondering, how do you think her upbringing influenced her as a first lady. >> i will cut to the chase. we do not know enough about her childhood. my theory on this is one of the central tenets of quakerism is to regard people as and god. that is why they do not use titles. dolley became famous for being empathetic and warm. i think that comes from her quakerness. >> she was able to take on and do so well in this role was because quakers believed men and women were equal. you do not get any sense of her being lesser them. she fits right in and does her thing. >> the first white house allocated a salary. was it st

that was iraq war veteran thomas young. well a senate judiciary committee met on capitol hill yesterday to listen to arguments about the use of domestic drones law enforcement officials and privacy advocates spoke about the increased demand of you avi's and the laws used to govern them the current privacy protections from area vehicles are based on court a court decision from the one nine hundred eighty s. protections that privacy advocates say are antiquated earlier i was joined by a mr part of it she is the director of domestic surveillance project at epic i asked her if lawmakers were receptive to her suggestions they actually seem very receptive and we think it's a very positive development that the senate is considering the topic we think it's very important there are already two bills circulating in the house so the senate is the next step for legislation to be introduced so we do and we are very. kind of happy about the direction that this is moving and i do want to play a part of that hearing this is benjamin miller

. >> meanwhile, marcus thomas has been writing warden culver. and she's granted him a meeting.he hopes to be returned to general population and reunited with her husband. >> he's maintaining. i mean, it's hard for him. he wants me out there with him so bad. just as bad as i need to be out there with him. we've been writing each other, back and forth. but i mean, really, we just haven't had enough communication with each other. so, i really don't know. i'm not there with him. i don't know. >> marcus. what's up with you? >> they want to do an interview with me. >> you want to be interviewed? >> yes. >> what question did they ask you? >> have i seen [ bleep ]. >> that caused you to cry? >> they asked me. >> they asked if you see [ bleep ]? that hurt you? >> [ bleep ]. >> marcus. marcus. you aren't going to win an academy award with that [ bleep ]. quit crying. i don't want to hear you crying. or i'm just going to go on back. they want me to talk to you about being released to general pop. i'm not going to hear you crying about some other damn man. >> i'm sorry. i'm sorry. >> last

>> hey, thomas, it's good to be with you.f you think about it president reagan and president bush, 43, are the last two american presidents who pushed comprehensive immigration reform. so, you know, immigration reform is -- has to deal with economic opportunity and growth. and that is very consistent with republican economic policies. so it's something that where i disagreed with governor romney's position on that. but we've got to move forward. and certainly as a committee, we did call on the republicans in congress to come up with a solution that's comprehensive, dealing with immigration reform. we're not trying to say, look, we want to tell republicans in congress what exactly needs to be in the legislation. but we have got to deal with this issue. >> one thing, henry, from the rnc report about that exact issue saying young voter, increasingly rolling their eyes with what the party believes. when someone rolls their eyes at us, they're not likely to open their ears to us. that's again to younger voters. another thing impor

with thomas aquinas. anybody at a good religious college would know that wasn't true. >> how do you explain the political agility of fundamentalists to get their world view inserted into the textbooks? >> how i account for it is they're better organized. ingersoll was always saying that. that religion is an organization for the perpetuation of its own values. freethought is never -- and that was true, by the way, of feminism for a long time. so i think one reason ingersoll has been forgotten, as paine was, nobody's come along to do for ingersoll in this century what he did for paine. i'm not an orator who gets asked to speak in 50 states or i would gladly do it. >> he was ahead of the times in so many -- >> in everything. >> he was a feminist. he was for women's rights. he was for eight-hour working days. this in the gilded age, when the great wealth was spreading. >> and he was a republican. >> he was republican. his great fear was that invoking divine authority in politics simply shut down the discussio

halloran recounts the life of political cartoons thomas nast. a regular contributor to harper's weekly, mr. nast made popular the dog and elephant as symbols of the democratic and republican parties. this is about 40 minutes. >> good evening. welcome to the filson historical society. i'm the director and want to thank you for joining us tonight for what i know the other interesting program, "thomas nast: the father of modern political cartoons" with fiona deans halloran. i want to thank you for being here. i was just remarking for the first time a government and while that we've had sunshine when we started an evening program. so appreciate you coming in and being with us to our mission is to preserve and tell the significant stories of kentucky and ohio valley region system and culture. a part of the culture and political culture or cartoons. weaponize cartoon collection your. we have one example of actually thomas nast cartoon over here that our speaker might have time to point to later, and we'll see. if we have any additional questions, the

thomas, this week we don't see any big warmup. get colder as the week goes on. >> stand by because now i'm going to fall on my face. it's sports time. >> we appreciate it. >> i appreciate you giving me a reason to fail. tiger woods has a four stroke lead. he sinks the long bird did i putt on par four. phil mickelson had a hot start. he misses this straightforward putt for par on 11 for his third bogey of the day. he finished the tournament at 14 under. 18 fold, tiger taps in for bogey to clinch his 76th pga tour win. he ends this january 19 under par, two shots ahead of steve striker. woods has a chance to return to number one with a win at bay hill coming up in two weeks. >>> on to college basketball, 7th ranked michigan hosting number 2 indiana. indiana down by five. cody zeller grabs his own miss and then tips it in. cuts the deficit down to three. following a missed free throw by michigan, ipd be anna has it again. zeller goes inside the banks. hoosiers go up by 1. i can't see the screen. less than 10 seconds to play. rim's ou

thomas requesting it. >> it was in the packet -- >> was it in our package? i thought that was the one for last month. >> no, there's two letters in there. there is one in the beginning. >> i have a question. i would like to know what the building code allows around continuances. >> the building code allows one continuance for 60 days. i gave him one continuance for 30 days. but there's other things other than the building code, there's past practices. >> yes, did you want to answer the -- >> i just have a question on procedure. i'm a bit confused here. who is granting the continuance, you or the staff? >> right, we are being asked to continue this. it's on our agenda. >> thank you. >> actually, the way it transpired was the appellant requested continuances of all three matters that are on the agenda. and according to the rule 7.10 that we had discussed earlier, the -- not the building code, but the rules that apply to the building appeals board, is my understanding, it says that if the secretary -- if there's no objection from the department and the secretar

people know how to use a weapon thomas how to handle a weapon, how to store a weapon. we do not want anything that would inhibit that. >> if i may shift gears once again from the gun issue onto another hot issue that is immigration, there is a group of senators that there meeting and putting out a plan on some sort of comprehensive immigration overhaul. senator paul gave a speech not too long ago outlining what he inks should be done. where do you stand on the pathway of citizenship that is going on these days? a you are not going to get comprehensive immigration bill until you can satisfy the american public that we have a way of north our border is secure. our border is not secure. we have that discussion about all of those other things thomas you are never -- things, you are never going to get that vote until we have shown we have secured our border. --how would you go of doubt go about demonstrating security that the american people would need in order to get it immigration bill done? >> i have spent several days, some of it on horseback, i have spent a lot of time

>> thomas: congratulations. >> steffy: thank you. >> thomas: baby's doing well? you're healthy?yeah, i am. >> thomas: you know, for the record, hope and i had no idea that -- >> thomas: you know what? i heard. got to wonder what brooke was thinking, though. >> liam: [ sighs ] >> steffy: i guess it was good. it forced me to open up about the baby -- not how i wanted to do it, but now we can move forward. we'll all be better off. even hope. >> oliver: [ clears throat ] i heard what happened. don't ever feel like you're all alone. ♪ >> hope: how did you hear? >> oliver: madison. >> hope: oh, what, is she sending out mass e-mails now? >> oliver: told me in confidence. she knows that i care about you, thought i could help you. >> hope: thank you. i wish you could. >> oliver: i think i can. >> hope: really? >> oliver: yeah. [ indistinct conversation ]

so breaking news, thomas.the conclave, the election process to select a new pope will begin on tuesday. >> all right. so march 12th will begin, keir, has everyone arrived, at least the cardinals that can participate are all in vatican city or rome neo? >> that's right. all of them are here. the last one from vietnam just arriving in the last few days, so it took some teem for them to gather, and of course the consequence base, which is like talking shop before the conclave starts, but that's been happening since monday. they have been in meetings. they've had the opportunity to talk to each other, to think about the right candidate, or even just go through the process of thinking what kind of candidates they want, but they'd get to the actual process, and that's where it gets serious. and then they go to another vote and slowly through that process, they gather the 115 cardinals and get down to selecting somebody. when that person reaches the point where they have a two thirds majority of the votes, they will

thomas, i want to start with you. you were there at the court. seems like the tone from folks coming out a little bit different than yesterday. feeling a little bit more optimistic today than maybe we heard yesterday. what's your take? >> reporter: well, it's a lot quieter. i wasn't here yesterday. but i was asking around today the difference between the two types of crowds. yesterday was a little more crowded and a little more contentious to the people i had a chance to talk to. it is very tame today. obviously it's hours later. things have died down. a lot more people are still just walking by taking pictures now. more of the media than anything else. but as we -- as we learned from inside today, karen, the fact that the justices seem very concerned with state rights. and with yesterday being the concern of overstepping california's state rights and getting involved with proposition 8, to now doma, and the fact that doma itself, it goes ahead and it limits what states can do when we talk about the nine different states and the district of colum

i'm thomas roberts. topping our agenda today, breaking news coming out of afghanistan. nbc confirming at least two u.s. service members and three afghan police killed in what appears to be an insider attack at a special ops outpost in the country's, wardak province. this coming on the heels of a trip to the region by defense chief chuck hagel. we have nbc's mike taibbi joining us now live from kabul with the very latest on this. mike, what exactly happened earlier today and who's claiming responsibility? >> reporter: well, we can give you a tictoc on this, a minute-by-minute and the taliban claim responsibility for the attack. it happened at 10:30 local time at wardak province. according to several sources, afghan and military sources from the u.s.-led coalition, here's how it went down. a single uniform wearing the official uniform of the afghan army walked into a briefing that included u.s. and afghan special forces, raised a weapon and opened fire. in the ensuing gun ballots, the gunman himself was killed but not before at least five people in that room were killed.

>> well, you raised a very good point, thomas.e have a second amendment right, all of us in this country. and it's a right for every individual to possess firearms but it is subject to reasonable regulation. not every american has the right. no americans have the right to possess the kinds of weapons that are regarded as excessively dangerous, such as manage guns. and that reasonable regulation has been upheld by the heller case, the supreme court's most recent pronouncement on this issue. the question here is whether the silent majority of americans and unfortunately they've been silent for a long time, can break the stranglehold that special interests have maintained over action. for first time in a decade, maybe a generation, we have an opportunity to seize the moment, to organize and galvanize the majority so we achieve common sense common ground measures which should be bipartisan. there's nothing partisan about public safety when it comes to police or law enforcement. i've done it for several decades now and that's why law e

is so there was a famous dinner that was held at monticello, thomas jefferson's house, where thomas jefferson invited james madison and alexander hamilton, and over dinner at monticello they struck the compromise of 1790 which was that the federal government would assume the wartime debts from the revolutionary war in exchange for the capitol being placed right here on the potomac river. so the compromise of 1790 was actually the key deciding factor in creating the district of columbia. they came here to this spot we're standing on now and had a masonic ritual. this is the masons had their aprons and the trowels and corn oil, and they gave some speeches right here on this spot and did the ceremonial laying of the southernmost boundary marker which is what we're standing over now. and that was how the district was created. >> next on booktv, learn about the history of the alexandria police department. or author amy birch uses photos to tell the story of the department and the city of al sand alexandria. >> the name of the book is "the alexandria police association," published by arcadia which

did thomas perez interfere with a supreme court court of decision, and his theory on discrimination. and labor's effort to hide cigarettes will meet the same fate as the big soda ban? >> it is possible, it is possible. i'm not saying it's guaranteed. i can't even say that it is more likely than not, but it is possible. >> paul: welcome to journ"the journal editorial report", i'm paul bgigot. that's president obama in israel and the first thawing the often frosty relationship with benjamin netanyahu. is it a turning point in the region? let's ask dan henninger and global view columnist bret stevens. so, bret, the big news out of this, or at least at the surface, that a new good feeling between prime minister y netanyahu and president obama. real or does it makes a difference? >> real, and it's definitely good in terms of the optics, president obama spent the first four years trying to put as much distance between him avenue sn the israelis as he could. it didn't serve american interests or anyone's interest. now he's there and talking about my friend bb. maybe it's not sincere, but it

did abigail and thomas jefferson correspond during john and thomas' year of not really speaking to each other? i have also heard that abigail was really, had an it mate relationship with him as far as correspondence went and wondering how true that is? >> they were, they were very good friends at one time. i think that the highest point of the relationship was when abigail was for awhile in prance, england, thomas jefferson was diplomate abroad at that time. they were very close. they were very close. as a matter of fact shall, for awhile, while jefferson was in par is, she was in london. they bought goods from one another and kept accounts for one another. also, at one point, one of jeffer soson's younger daughter came from virginia to france but stopped in london on the way and abigail took care of her during that time. during the national period when particularly after the election of 1800, the relationship really fell apart and was over politics. i would say that during that time, abigail was very disappointed with jefferson. >> next up is matt in oshkosh, wisconsin. >> hi. thanks f

i want to bring in msnbc thomas roberts outside the court. thomas, we heard a lot from bill clinton recently because he was sort of overseeing a lot 6 this legislation back in the '90s in doma's don't ask don't tell. he said recently he had sleepless nights over those pieces of legislation. he wrote an op ed defending where he was in his mind. doesn't seem to jive with the new york times reporting about bill clinton urging john kerry in 2004 to come out against gay marriage. but you know, that's okay. we can take him at his word. now, do you think history is going to judge bill clinton, 50 years from now, for doma and don't ask don't tell, as sort of acceptable within the span of the moment? or do you think we will look back and see those as serious bliets on his record? >> a you you point out, i think history will look back to think that was acceptable at the time for what was in front of president clinton. obviously, showing contrition through that op ed that came out earlier in march and following in the next week or so with secretary of s

i'm thomas roberts. upping the ante. one day after releasing their plan to keep the government up and running, republicans are blasting the president and democrats in the senate with just three weeks to go until the next big deadline. both chambers with congress will be working on rival stopgap measures. is in the senate, democrats will be working on their proposal to keep the funds flowing until the fall. in the house, truls committee will take up the 982 billion plan introduced by republicans yesterday. house speaker john boehner saying this in the last hour. >> the house, our goal is to cut spending. it's not to shut down the government. that's why we're going to move this cr this week and we would hope that the senate would take this bill off and move it quickly. the president on friday agreed that there's no reason to get into some debate about shutting down the government.7é)f >> we don't believe as democratñ that we should let a sensible mindless blunt guillotine decide where we make reductions in our budgets to e

erin thomas and i just thought, is she dead? i was just panicked. >> reporter: and shocked. often bench drinkers aren't the campus misfits. they're just as likely good girls under enormous pressure just trying to fit in. erin says she first began lying to her mother in eighth grade. >> it was about me wanting to make a decision and knowing that i wasn't going to be able to do anything unless i did it behind her back. >> reporter: you wanted control? >> yes. >> often under age bingers secretly pregame pounding stomach turning quantities of alcohol before the school dance or the big game where alcohol is strictly banned. >> getting five beers over a couple hours could be pretty common. >> little kids don't even like the taste of alcohol. >> they hate it. >> they're just chugging it. >> disgusting. >> and you're encouraging each other sitting there going, just do it, just fast. here. and telling each other tips how to drink it faster so you don't taste it. >> for girls, alcohol has the added danger of giving them courage to act out

>> thank you, thomas. mean, i think people understand that this is not a way to make cuts and is this is not a way to do deficit reduction. these are across the board cuts and they're cuts in things that necessary not only to protect vulnerable populations, but really to invest in our future. cuts in education, cuts in small business. so these are cuts that will have an impact. the congressional budget office says if these sequestered cuts go into effect, by the end of this year, we're lose 750,000 jobs in this country. so i think everyone understands this is not the way to do deficit reduction. we have an alternative. there's a house version that i've cosponsored. my senator, senator white house has sponsored a version in the senate. we ought to have a real debate about how to surplus sequester with responsible cuts, closing tax loopholes, passing the buffett rule, a combination of generation of revenues with cuts in spending. but protecting the things that are necessary to grow our economy. so i think it

live in san jose, thomas roman, abc news. >> thank you, thomas. new at 11:00, four kids one just 13 years old lead peninsula police on a chase down highway 101. the three teenage boys and girl all from san jose are now accused of stealing a car and running from cops. sky 7hd was over the scene as the chase ended. the 14-year-old boy from behind the wheel started running from police after they spotted the stolen car. >>> we have changes coming in our weather. let's get to cabbed yaw patel -- let's get to sandhya patel. >> sze seen sprinkles -- we have seen sprinkles and now we seeing quite a bit of cloud cover, and we are also seeing some fog down below. check out the visibility. it has dropped to a quarter of a mile. as you look at this view you can see it is murky out there. you will want to give yourself some extra time for the morning commute. not only fog, but clouds and sprinkles and temperatures in the 50s. showers in the forecast for the holiday weekend. we will have a time line coming up. ama? >> a little girl from san rafael showed big br

i'm thomas roberts. two big stories this morning.t's the politics of washington but the politics of the vatican have people fascinated. happening right now at the vatican, 115 cardinals who will elect the next pope have just returned to the sistine chapel after their lunch break and we could see white smoke in less than an hour or no smoke at all. dozens of onlookers stood in the rain awaiting the first round this morning and black smoke rose from the sistine chapel. so far we've seen black smoke twice, just before 3:00 p.m. yesterday and just before 7:00 a.m. today. cardinal joseph ratzinger was elected in the fastest conclave. it came in day two of the conclave. back in 2005, black smoke came in at 6:52 and white smoke came in about six hours later at 12:50 p.m. joining me is george. we've had no pope. at what point is the pivot point for the voting that will take place behind the scenes today, the narrowing down, at least, of the candidates? >> they are certainly going to be narrowing down, thomas. that may have in fact began alre

and as far as thomas? when santa cruz police contacted them. his heart sank.otions. >> reporter: if the jury had found that he was found guilty he would have received 7.5 years. some sentences. that means that he would have still been in imprisoned. >> pam: terisa,stay with kron 4 as we continue to track the latest in the santa cruz shooting. thank you, terisa estacio. you can also find continuous updates on our facebook and twitter pages. >> pam: developing news-- u- c santa cruz police say, a campus years. this water main break continues with cleanup efforts. plus: get ready to pay morehow much it will cost you. and: firefighters in crews working all day.and have now repaired a water main that broke early yesterday morning on 15ththe pipe from 1952 was replaced today. crews also filled in the sinkhole the break created several nearby homes causing a significant amount damage kron 4's scott rates talked damage . art torres looking at what is left of his home, he can't believe how fast watertorres snapping these pictures just after his home flooded from the wa

c-span: thomas harvey was his name, of wichita, kansas. >> guest: that's right. c-span: and did you talk to him? >> guest: i did several times. he's now working part-time at a plastic factory. he failed his medical exams when he took them again, so he can't act as a doctor. and he says that he may give this brain to the hebrew university if they ask for it. c-span: and you also found that someone has his eyes? >> guest: that was even more extraordinary. the man who had been his eye doctor in princeton somehow appeared at the autopsy, asked permission if he could take the eyes, and was given permission, and has stored them in a bank vault ever since, and he says he's done it for his veneration for einstein, not for any scientific purposes. c-span: and where are they stored, what city? >> guest: they are somewhere in new jersey in a bank vault. c-span: who was albert einstein? >> guest: he was an extraordinary young man who had a tremendously hard life as a young man. when he finished college, he almost starved because he couldn't get a job. he had antagonized his

i'm lori thomas, the owner at 532 columbus, which is right on the block before columbus and union. i just wanted to reiterate what i have already told a lot of folks here and director reiskin, which is this is a difficult situation and i think the pagoda palace is the best alternative, as well as i can understand to minimize the disruption in north beach. during the period full time from august to the end of, nor when we had the utility work going forward, our monday to friday lunch sales dropped 25%. i would recommend that the city and mta consider some sort of rent credit for the co-located businesses, certainly on that specific block, perhaps. because it's hard to project all of the influences that affect drops in revenue; right? so i do want to say that i appreciate all the work that everybody has done to try to come up with a solution and if we have to bring the devices up in north beach, i think the pagoda theater offers the best alternative that i am aware of right now. but i do want to

thomas jefferson did too. people never saw the president, they never heard the president, let alone the first ladies. so the public perception, there really isn't a public perception. it's a good question but it's sitchpli a different time and it's not there. >> the white house was burned by the british and the madisons had to leave. the mon rose were able to move back in. how important symbolically was this for the country? >> huge. the white house had become in effect america's house. one of the reasons why then and

george thomas is on assignment. congress is looking into the international persecution of religious believers, and they heard from the wife of saeed abedini about his imprisonment in iran. john jessup has that story