paine and thomas jefferson. mr. brookhiser is the author of "founder's son, a life of abraham lincoln." this hour-long talk is part of a series on the founders hosted by the society of the four arts in palm beach, florida. >>> welcome to the second presentation in this series on the legacies of the founding fathers. my name is david breneman and i serve as president of the society of the four arts. let me ask you to take just a moment if you have a cellphone with you and make sure it is silenced. thank you. we want to thank mrs. gay gaines behind the idea behind this series and for her help in recruiting the cellar group of speakers we have enjoyed this group and last. dr. joseph ellis served as an adviser to the perhaps for which we are most grateful. dr. robert watson has been a strong member of our planning committee, has served admirably as a discussion leader for all of the talk, and has helped us secure the presence of c-span in filming the talks. we are also grateful to the dunn foundation and mrs. rebecc

home of thomas wolfe. go inside and learn how his time here in iron his first novel, lookhomeward angel . >> thomas clayton wolf who was born october 3, 1900 in asheville north carolina is today by many consideredto be north carolina's most famous author . he's probably one of the most famous authors of the early part of themid-20th century . he published two novels and a book of short stories during his short life. we are sitting today in his home and thomas wolfe immortalized the house in his first book, look homeward, angel which was published in 1929. we are in a home where the author spent formative years of his life and then on the map with his writing and fiction. thomas wolfe was born october 3, 1900 and asheville. when he was born, there were some working thousand people living in the city, and it was in town that had gained notoriety as a recreational resort and a health resort. they had come in 1880 and it's going to bring lots of people to asheville. thomas was born the youngest of eight childr

george washington, thomas paine and thomas jefferson. but when a man is so interested in the founding fathers in symbolic fathers. we also have to be curious about his actual father. so i'm going to talk about thom thomas lincoln and a fifth father became important to abraham lincoln as the war ground on and that was god, the father. so thomas lincoln born in virginia and moved as a boy to kentucky. that's where he married and started his family. daughter sarah born in 1807 and abraham born in 1809. there was a second son, thomas who died after three days. then in 1816, thomas lincoln took his family across the ohio river in indiana. and in 1830, moved again to illinois which is where he lived for the rest of his life. in the middle of the last century, it was typical to write of thomas as if he was a -- white trash, if you were being rude. and we don't write that way anymore. we realize that thomas lincoln was responsible man. he was a farmer and a carpenter all of his life and never aspired to be anything else. but he never went broke.

of thomas wolfe. inside and learn how this inspired his first novel look homeward, angel. >> thomas clayton wolfe was born october 31900 and asheville, north carolina,, today by many consider to be north carolina's most famous author. he's probably one of the most famous authors of the early part of the mid-'20s. he published two novels in the book of short stories during his short life. we are sitting today in his childhood home. thomas wolfe immortalized the house in his first book look homeward, angel which is published in october 1929. so today we're in a home where an author spent formative years of his life and then put on the map with his writing and fiction. thomas wolfe was born october 3, 1900 and asheville pizza when he was born there were some 14,000 people living in the city, and it was a boom town. it had gained notoriety as a recreational resource and a health resort. the railroad had, in 1880, and it's going to bring lots of people to asheville. thomas was born the youngest of eight ch

announcer: tonight on c-span, q&a with warmer affectional basketball player it on thomas. thomas., talking about the future of clinical leadership. coco >> this week on q&a, former professional best ballplayer and author etan thomas. etan thomas discusses his book "we matter: athletes and activism." brian: etan thomas, tell us the story of a guy named bill bland and the impact he had on your life. etan: he had a big impact on my life.

thomas died last month. he was just 45 years old. according to the new york daily news, he was still on active duty. his family says he was suffering from a cancer linked to the toxic fumes from grounds zero. thomas was given a hero's funeral march 20th in brooklyn. >> if you have a monumental american, please tweet us @velshiruhle. i'm on the move all day long.

spot and thomas sparrow political correspondent thomas knowledge as i mentioned very likely to be the next social democrat leader she's well known of course here in germany not so abroad is that about to change is she going to how big is her role going to be from now on. it is certainly going to be big christopher because she will not only be leading the party after that crises that you mentioned one crisis after the next she will also be leading the parliamentary group in the german stock so her role within the social democrats will certainly be very important and her role is precisely to try and read you the social democrats after that terrible result in the last election she could also be the person to fight against the conservatives if you will in the next federal election but again before that actually happens she will have to make sure that the s.p.d. the social democrats here in germany are united again because you can clearly see even here you know those divisions between different factions between the way the different factions would want the party to move into the future wel

great talking to you thomas sparrow that our political correspondent. we're going to switch now to some of the other stories making news around the world in afghanistan thirty one people have been killed in a blast in the capital kabul officials say a suicide bomber detonated explosives at a photo registration center where people were collecting identity cards the so-called islamic state has claimed responsibility. is facing a deepening political crisis after its new prime minister sarah started jeezy and reportedly walked out of talks with the opposition the country has seen days of protests uncertainties and was named prime minister critics say the former president wants to rule for life. and in syria chemical weapons inspectors have finally taken samples of the scientific suspected chemical attack in the town of duma experts from the chemical weapons watchdog want to determine if internationally banned substances were used to attack residents here this month several western nations have blamed syria for. the suspected attackers syrian government deni

thomas: the leader of sare boubou village invited us to a meeting. they now have four dimitra clubs here. there are 2000 across africa -- set up and funded by the un's food and agriculture organization and other development agencies. the clubs help to promote participation and initiative within village communities. rou gui ba encourages women to speak openly. it's still unusual for them to have a say on anything. today they're discussing a proposal from the young men to erect stone dams in order to stop soil erosion. the children always come along. it's good practice for when they're older. rou gui ba: we talk about everything that affects the village, with younger and older men equally. and even more importantly, we present our point of view at the village assembly, along with other dimitra clubs. our opinion is taken into consideration for decisions about the village community. that's the biggest change. before, we had no say at all on matters in the village. thomas: sare boubou has around 160 residents and is some distance away from the big cities

thomas: it a big d for tse ung resints ofare boubou village. they're going on air for the first time at the community radio station in koussanar. they've been invited to take part in a chat show. everyone here speaks "pulaar" -- a regional language in eastern senegal. rou gui ba and her colleague are the leaderers of the village discussion group, part of the dimitra network of clubs. konate deme speaks about the brief rainy season and his dried-up corn fields. rou gui ba, a mother of four, explains how the rain swept garbage into their homes, and how they had to clean everything in the village. she hopes that local radio stations will help spread their ideas and efforts to other villages. konate: our discussion groups have carried out a lot of important projects, most of them concerning climate change. what we're doing affects the whole commmmunity, but one pern on their own can't solve the problems. these clubs hahave become a vil part of how we put our plans into effect, because we e can mobilize and motivate so many residents. thomas: the le

is thomas sparrow there reporting live here in berlin. now some sports for even by munich are on track for the treble after battering labor coups in six two in the german football cup semifinal on tuesday night despite the impressive scoreline the bundesliga champs needed to focus keep their focus against laver coups and the hosts have been onus hot streak of late and have a fearsome attack. byron came out with all guns blazing thomas malays shot saved by grandly no but then how did martinez hit the target. in the three minutes. six minutes later funky bailey's cross found robert levin dosti who made it to mit . but they because in struck back a free kick from you liam bronson and captain last bender made it to one in the sixteen minutes. in the second half by an dominated giago with a great pass and thomas millis said thank you very much everyone and against the hapless me because in defense tiago added a fourth with just over an hour work on. ryan's attack was unstoppable. making it five one less than minutes later. they are bailey had

many thanks for that thomas sparrow political correspondent reporting there from the s.p.d. party conference. now it's been a free scoring weekend so far in germany's business leader in sport including a spectacular time yesterday between rb lights and hoffenheim both teams still have qualification for european competition next season firmly within their sights in their last encounter like they suffered its biggest been asleep defeat to date and embarrassing for neil defeats and as it turned out there was more of the same in this encounter. so goes the fight hoffenheim to within touching distance of the champions league places so it was no surprise to see the by lonely in the thick of the action once again he started the move which ended in march stopping the visitors in for fourteen thousand it leaves it left with a simple finish to mount his return from suspension. night six certainly weren't making life easy for themselves caught in possession gnabry doesn't miss chances like this i base his seventh goal in his many games often times so dominant even that defenders wanted

looking at last year justice thomas had three times as many separate opinions as majority opinions and justice gorsuch had a most the same percentage partly because although in the first days must have been wild because it took him weeks to get him up to speed and it is shocking to think hitting the ground running but he heard the cases he only had one majority opinion to write but then everybody else was working on their opinions so that gave him time to figure out where he stood but it was an encouraging sign. he had a decade-long experience as a judge already he was not afraid to say this is how i see things he would just not go along and keep his head down for the first term or year or decade he was ready to hit the ground running. something i thought was exciting to see with their separate opinion. one interesting other aspect to justice gorsuch it is a little hard to know because it is a black box but there was a significant drop of the cases the court heard but that could be speculating avoiding controversial cases if you just look at the math you have only eight people then you

is political correspondent thomas spare reporting for us thomas good to talk to you. let's take a look now at some other stories making news around the world u.s. president donald trump says he is prepared to walk out of planned talks with the north korean leader kim jong un if they are quote not fruitful after discussing the plan to sit down with the japanese prime minister president trump said maximum pressure must be maintained on north korea until the nation denuclearize its turkish president to one has announced plans to hold early elections on june twenty fourth the early polls will haste in turkey switch from a parliamentary system to a presidential one that will strengthen air to ones power the announcement came just before turkey's parliament voted to extend the country state of emergency which grants the government's sweeping powers britain's prime minister theresa may suffered a heavy defeat in the upper house of parliament over changes to proposed break that legislation lawmakers passed an amendment that forces ministers to look into maintaining a form of

so politico's records confirm thomas roberts' account. and nbc news reported last november what trump bodyguard keith schiller said in an interview with the house intelligence committee. after a business meeting before the miss universe pageant in 2013, a russian participant offered to send five women to donald trump's hotel room in moscow according to three sources who were present for the interview. that night, two sources said schiller said he discussed the conversation with trump as trump was walking back to his hotel room, and schiller said the two men laughed about it as trump went to bed alone. schiller testified that he stood outside trump's hotel room for a time and then went to bed. one source noted that schiller testified he eventually left trump's hotel room door and could not say for sure what happened during the remainder of the night. so why did donald trump lie to james comey about how long he was in moscow? that's the question next. each day justin chooses to walk. at work... and after work. he does it all with dr. scholl

we know it was of enormous importance to thomas jefferson. the reason that it's religious freedom day is because it was on this day in 1786 that the virginia assembly finally enacted what became known as the virginia statute for religious freedom and that statute was authored by thomas jefferson. he first wrote the text of the bill around around 1777 which means he wrote it around the same time as, of course, he famously drafted the declaration of independence and then he kept trying to get it through the virginia assembly over many years, and it was introduced formally in 1779 and it was not passed until 1786 a number of years later. thomas jefferson was enormously proud for the statute of religious freedom. if you visit his epitaph in monticello, virginia, you will noce three items on the itaph. one is he was the author of the declarion of independence and another was that he was the founder of the university of virginia and the third was that he was the author of the act concerning religious freedom. he does not include that he was present

ties between the two countries hi thomas tell us more about israel and germany's relationship and what sets it apart well what sets it up potts sumi is essentially its history and that's something that german politicians have stressed on and on various occasions that's something that i'm good i'm a coal also mentioned as a pot of germany's reason of state the right of existence to to israel that's something that germany's foreign minister heikal mohs also stressed in his inaugural speech saying that he entered politics because of our states he then also went to israel a few days later even if you look at the coalition agreement the new coalition agreement of the german government there's a chapter on israel where the israel and relationships with israel i described is a pillar of german politics so you can certainly say that their relationship between germany and israel is very important some even describe it as unique it has been important historically thomas how would you describe ties today. ties today are still good but there is potential to me there have been certain issues betwee

and that statute was authored by thomas jefferson. he first wrote the text of the bill around 1777, which means he wrote it around the same time as, of course, he famously drafted the declaration of independence and he kept trying to get it through the virginia assembly over many years. it was not passed until 1786, a number of years later. thomas jefferson was enormously proud of the statute for religious freedom. if you visit his epitaph in monticello, virginia, you'll notice there are three items on his epitaph. one is that he was author of the declaration of independence. another was that he was the founder of the university of virginia. and the third is that he was the author of the act concerning religious freedom. he does not include that he was president of the united states or ambassador to france or any of the other enormously important things that he was. he was most proud among two or three other accomplishments of the fact he was the author of the act for religious freedom. and we know, too, that he was so proud of his au

we are going to talk about thomas jefferson and other things. thank you for being with us on this beautiful night. i want to start with the title of the book, "most blessed of the patriarchs," which you talk about coming from a letter that thomas jefferson writes in 1793. he is not quite back home but he is talking about going home to monticello in virginia. he is writing a letter to angelica skyler church who cannot hear the name without thinking of hamilton -- angelica, eliza, and peggy. he is writing about his plans to go back to monticello and part of the letter reads as follows. i have my house to build, my fields to form, and watched for the happiness for those who labor for mine. i have a daughter married to a man of sense and competence, they live with me. if the other shall be as fortunate in due process of time, i shall imagine myself as the most blessed of the most blessed of the patriarchs. annette gordon-reed, talk about --t is in that innocuous that seemingly innocuous paragraph that intrigued you and made you think that was the ro

connect the people that thomas knew as a boy. he told some secrets, which you should not do in a small, southern town. thomas said he got death threats from his first book. >> then go inside the grove park inn, with a great asked the author, f scott fitzgerald, stayed during the summers of 1935 and 1936. >> he had lost his career at this point. he came to ask the looking for a place to belong, a place to recover, a place to rest. he came to recover that news. he wanted -- that muse. he wanted to find stories in the people that were staying here. >> on sunday at 2:00 p.m. eastern on american history tv, we too are the largest home in america the biltmore estate built, by the vanderbilt family during the gilded age. >> a home with more than 33 bedrooms for guests and family, 65 fireplaces, an incredible, massive staircase, the architectural beauty's running the home. >> we will visit late billy retreat.religious working with our cable affiliates as we explore america. ♪ >> this month on c-span, wiest -- we feature our studentcam wi

thomas: that is very big.izes growing that quickly. 6% of jpmorgan's loan portfolio, i don't know off the top of my head, but that growth may be a top 100 bank in the country. tom: can you extrapolate that to the rest of banking when you look at a good 6% loan growth number? can you bring that over to all the other banks to follow? gerard: i think what you are hisg to see his jpmorgan -- jpmorgan's loan growth is very diversified. it's not just in consumer real estate. into the numbers, it will be interesting to see -- fromit's one from one particular area or the other. it's a good righead. thomas: you will see a difference. i do not think all the big banks will have the same growth and that will be part of the storyline here. i think jpmorgan's growth will probably be the best of the biggest banks. francine: i'm just trying to go through some of the other headlines we are getting. the chief executive putting out the release that we have been outpacing the industry on consumer deposit growth. a strong market p

thomas: one of them you already mentioned.he euro bail, that is one of the key conditions but he also has to report once a week to german authorities. he is not allowed to leave germany. those are certain conditions that have been announced by the german court after that announcement that we had just heard and are just talking about. that will apply the next few hours or days. >> what more do we know about the court's reasoning in its decision today? thomas: the whole case hinges on whether the charges in spain are compatible with the charges in germany where there is a comparison between the two countries. specifically when we talk about the rebellion, the courts decided that was not the case. in germany, the comparable charge would include violence, which the court decided or believes was not the case in his situation. that is why they decided rebellion would not be a pursuit . the other charge, the misuse of funds, they believe that could be the case, they could become bearable charges in germany and spain. that is why the

thomas hampson is one of the most thing. this opera singers in the world his voice has been described as a baritone so rich you can circle the universe. for. today's the first day of thomas hampson lead academy as part of the heidelberg of fooling the heidelberg spring festival it will be here in this beautiful boardroom and will be lifestream worldwide. bring. some home on show on four hundred and it's going to i'm. off to save. toxic circuit bar. the. tom thanks for having us today and the first day of your of your leave academy high the back what is the importance of the lead the lead in german means song and it's basically for me. poetry set to music. what is the importance of this of this league why is it important for you to convey this passion to young thing is this is your your main emphasis here at the academy the elite tradition the art song which we're getting away from using classic song stars in pretty much the the german one thousand century tradition called lete but you're right it means song it means middle d

and for more let's bring in our political correspondent thomas sparrow who is following developments from berne lens of thomas have we learned anything new about the alleged perpetrators here we just saw in that video what are you hearing from police police are still investigating the issue regarding specially the perpetrator of the perpetrators because according to one of the press statements they were attacked by three people so they're actually looking for for three people something particularly important sarra is that the investigation is being carried out by department when the german criminal police would actually deals with politically motivated crimes which is from the right wing seen from the left wing scene or also involving a foreigner so that is one issue that has to be taken into consideration because there are questions of obviously regarding this case not only about the perpetrators but also the complete authenticity of the video on the events that surrounded that video have not been independently verified and as we wait for that verification that we have to mention th

[ gunfire ] >> general thomas j.n to history as "stonewall," a misfit and maverick who becomes the south's greatest soldier. a man of god with a desire for peace and a mind for war. but behind every misfit stands a man, and behind every legend lies the truth. >> thomas "stonewall" jackson is one of the civil war's most intriguing generals -- an eccentric, deeply religious man, uncomfortable in social settings but at home in the heat of battle. known for his rigid, inflexible temperament, some psychologists actually suggest that jackson struggles with autism, and yet his military brilliance makes him general lee's most gifted tactical commander. his peculiarities may make him an outsider in the civilian world, but in the war that nearly destroys america, stonewall jackson becomes a confederate hero and military legend. >> general? general? the federals have retreated back across the river. mcclellan will have to lick his wounds back in maryland tonight. >> thank god for that, at least, but we have plenty of our own wo

. >>> thomas is taking over this multi-million dollars mansion. >> this is insane.rything you want and more. >> i can't believe what i just >> head over to our web site or use our mobile app. >> thomas has a wish that honestly many of us have had. >> i wish money grew on trees. >> don't we all? >> it got me thinking -- >> it would be awesome to spend a day living like a billionaire. >> instead of spending 24 hours in the middle of a lake or doing something ridiculous he kind of rented himself this, a $14 million mansion if you were wondering. >> i hope at least -- >> it comes with lots of bedrooms. >> it is bedroom after bedroom. >> they can sleep in many places. >> we'll start with an obvious one. >> private pbar. >> you can have pool parties. by that i mean -- >> pool table. >> flip some switches. >> there's my favorite. >> it's a movie room. >> you can have the other kind of pool parties too. >> oh, and it's indoors. >> dang, bruh. >> i'm not leaving. >> thomas, come out. >> no. >> he does >> i'm sure the owners are happy seeing this bit. >> look at the pool at n

this as new project at the thomas jefferson building. it is a private partnership that has the potential to change and revolutionize the experience at the library as -- bless you, as you know you stated well that you are the largest library in the world and mr. ryan makes the case that the founders as stotod to see how far we have taken it. we are not grasping the potential of the public to be engaged with the experience the library has to offer. can you talk to the committee about why this project is important and how it will enhance the benefit to experience those coming to washington, d.c. >> congress invested significant amount of funding in the '90s to renovate and bring out all of the architecture ral building. the main room was closed. now, 1.8 million visitors physically come into the jefferson building. they all say this is the most beautiful building and som some -- agreed. washington. >> that's what i said. >> it is. and however, they leave without getting the experience of connecting to the collections. those magnificent coll

in her first letter to thomas in her first lighter to thomas fisher, -- letter, she asked thomas fisher, i want to know if you have washed yourself at this time, or if you have washed at all? tot difference did it make her, but i guess she was concerned. she replied with, i have not week, but il thought i would not say anything about it but she did. and then she took a shot on his father, your father tries to quarrel with me a heap of times but i do not listen to the old man. he gets tired of quarreling by himself. she closed the final letter she wrote with a slight suggestion time will soone come when the yankees the south may run, when you can come and see your son sleep, and love, and sleep with me. frances fisher. she died four weeks later. the intensity of combat by listing casualties suffered by the opposing sides, that seems impersonal. yet, it is easy to glorify war. we do it all the time. with glamourling and excitement, and a sense of beauty. war distorts history, and it belittles the meaning of sacrifice, a word we too often reading about the civil war. let me give you exampl

party conference for us is all political correspondent thomas thomas not as the first woman to lead the s.p.d. how significant is that. it is indeed significant because we're talking here about the party described as the oldest in germany and also because not a very important task a very important challenge ahead of her name really to push that renewal of a party that has suffered a lot in recent months has gone from one crisis to the next it is also important if you look at germany's political spectrum because knowledge is not the only woman now leading a party we've got four women in germany why the leader of code the political parties so it is significant that not as has been chosen for a wide variety of reasons all right sixty six percent of the vote that is what she's taking from her party how convincing is that. it shows first and foremost i'm not everyone is happy with this and everyone believes that she will be able to push the party forward so from doc respect for her. it is not necessarily a fantastic result but on the other hand i don't think the s.p.d. was expecting another

party conference for us is all political correspondent thomas sparrow good to see thomas now not as is the first woman to lead the s.p.d. how significant is that oh it is very significant and i just think about this this is the party described as the oldest party in germany now led by probably one of the most difficult moments in the party's recent history now in germany for all of the parties arrive a lead a code led by women so it's certainly incredibly important but it will all obviously also come down to what she manages to achieve here at the s.p.d. because the s.p.d. is facing a very deep crisis not only divided here that somebody can clearly see the party conference but also having lost many voters in the last federal election and she took sixty six percent of the variance to become leader how convincing is that what challenges will she now face. the sixty six point thirty five percent obviously reveals that many are not necessarily so hopeful. about the future with an they are not a list but i think the s.p.d. still has nightmares about the result of the previous leader martin

on c-span two, a discussion on a thomas weapons and international law. a discussion on the trump administration's foreign-policy priorities. laurie kudlow's book to reporters on the second day on the job as white house national economic director. he addressed up market losses, talked briefly about trade relations with china, and the potential for what in the media and government have called an impending trade war. i think we're going to see some very positive -- [inaudible] [inaudible] this is a long plane ride. don't only to this. -- hold me to this. there is a good possibility. >> [inaudible] >> this is not about trade wars. this is about holding to the laws and customs of free trade. [inaudible] it is not about a war. i know it is a cliche. [inaudible] that is not the way i see it. we're going to reform. [inaudible] i'm not sure. [inaudible] the american economy is well improved. we are up the last three quarters. [inaudible] we are in great shape. i don't want to lose that. there is an optimistic view that needs to be inserted into these discussions.

barrow on the story for us tonight here in berlin thomas they q. the daughter of the ex russian spy sergei screwball has made her first statement since a nerve agent attack which left both her and her father in critical condition now via british police yulia scrip all said that she is recovering well but that she feels disoriented earlier russian state t.v. played a recording of her speaking to her cousin on the phone moscow tussling with london for control of the narrative here which british authorities say bears all the hallmarks of a russian assassination attempt. it is no more than a month since our guys and his daughter uli are were poisoned with a deadly chemical agent on british soil kicking off a diplomatic war of words descend from ation claims and counterclaims that is showing no sign of letting up. on. a russian broadcaster aired what it claimed was a telephone chat between you and talk cousin. but whether it was genuine or not. even the t.v. station would not say when it came from is another matter. victoria script hour later said she b

we do not want to lump thomas payne and thomas jefferson together. they are similar but different. the question is, are we going to identify washington in one of these two categories? and is this not the uniform expression that we hear from scholarship, the media, people that are debating things in the political realm -- we will often hear, our founders are deists, they all were deists, they did that have a christian believes, they were unbelievers. we find that in all circles of discussion. that is basically the position that i am choosing to challenge. now, george washington did not say this. if it doesn't fit, you must acquit. he had absolutely nothing to do with the o.j. simpson trial. [laughter] dr. lillback: but it just so happens that that language is very excellent in our context. you see the handsome hand of george washington reaching out. it has five fingers. the question is, can we put a deist glove on his hand? and if it does not fit, we must acquit him of the charge. so did he believe in providence? guess what? providence is by far his most important theological word.

ok standing by for us of yesterday's party conference in political correspondent thomas sparrow tolleson tree of knowledge very likely to be the next social democrat leader she's well known in germany but not a broad is that about to change how big is her role going to be in german politics . it is certainly going to be bigger than what it has been so far kristopher we're talking here about a woman that if everything goes well could be the challenge of the conservatives in the next federal election but it's important to stress that there are various ifs here there are various caviar because the social democrats have been going from one crises to the next they've been suffering a lot the party is also internally divided so her role certainly will be particularly important in especially in two fronts internally trying to unite the party and also leading the s.p.d. parliamentary group of the german born to start but it will be certainly be a very difficult task for and they are not as you mentioned you know the germany social democrats have been suffering losing support in recent years like

are i tentatively spoke of correspondent thomas sparrow joins us now to break down what this all means thomas jail certainly hasn't dampened his a fighting spirit so where does he go from here not very far at least on the short term he has already announced that he's on his way to lane but the fact that he was released on bail also comes with certain conditions there that he's not allowed to leave germany for instance he has to report on various occasions to the different or thora he so he will certainly be in germany while the case still proceeds because it's important to stress that although the court announced that the rebellion charges were not continued the other charge that lesser charge of misuse of public funds that still continues on the court still has to decide whether mr ford i'm on will be extradited on that second case so for now he will not be going very far ok so free but not entirely free at the moment. that's correct that's that's exactly the case he will obviously now have a much bigger role and now that he's left prison we expect that to be to be the case to explain

thomas, i have a question for you. when will the government pay back social security they keep siphoning? and i always hear that they will pass back and it has never happened. something in washington keeping money in it for you when you retire. it is a tax. they rely on the rest of the generation. this unless on like we continue to raise taxes. i think people are living longer now, the retirement age should be increased. people want to work, that is fine and many are at the retirement age. it is not about paying back. it always has been. joe, new york, independent line. caller: sorry i didn't mention my name. guest: i will put you on a mailing list. caller: i want to a dress the core issue that i believe is a core issue. i believe the lobbyists have corrupted the system. and the ethical infrastructure of the country has been destroyed because of it. can you address that issue specifically? guest: i do not think it is lobbyists alone are the problem is career politicians. founders never expected politics to be a career.