thomas a. scott was famous in one case, he was so politically influential that he got a bill through the pennsylvania legislature in the got the governor to sign it 34 minutes after was introduced so they were very powerful and they would use their political influence to set up the shell corporations and they would funnel their railroad business to these corporations so they controlled, and in many ways that would funnel money how the company and they ran it fairly well up to a point, but when the panic of 1873 hit their railroad had to stop paying dividends and the shareholders finally began to look into what they were doing. vanderbilt's rhoads continue to pay dividends throughout the panic. lessee put it he ran the corporations as though they were private personal property so how did we get here? you see the origins of that within vanderbilt's like fine the separation from ownership and voters and shareholders who want really paying attention and that creates an incentive for the agents running th