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allen ginsberg. part of the mission was to protect the free speech rights of writers everywhere. he was upset about the harassment the writers were facing, and he confronted thomas fleming to release a statement contending the harassments, and he was not a fan of the papers at all and they were inflammatory, but they deserved the same free speech protections as anyone else. he wrote a letter saying he was grateful for the statement but said, "i would have taken exception were it my place applying wholesale to left literature outside the ideology displayed in se readers digest with its cold war theory or the new york daily news which proposes bombing china counting 2 million persons at their own estimate as reasonable, or for that matter the new york times whose business as usual reporting in time of crisis inflames my own heart. be that as it may, merely to say i find aboveground language as often inflammatory as new left underground rhetoric as would wc fields." [laughter] that was allen ginsberg in 1970s. finally, these papers, you know, they brought people into the movement fold. they could shore up people's political participation. they welcomed participatio

allen. i'd like to pose for the panel two examples, historical examples, that i ask you to comment on in light of your general discussion. the first is thomasefferson who while serving as secretary of state described very quietly george washington as a -- i'd like to know whether you consider that civil or incivil, and also remembering what was said at the outset by chairman leech with regard to the house divided speech. i'm mindful that speech was received at the south as a loud shout which some interpreted as declaring that only war would resolve these issues. i'd like to know how you take that reaction too what was, in fact, a stage diplomatic speech. i agree with chairman leach, but it was received as an outrage. >> david, i'm not sure i heard all of that. i don't hear as well as i should. the first comment was jefferson's attack on washington? >> yes. >> well, he said tough things about washington, and washington acted with extraordinary restraint overall, but at the end of the day after washington was no longer president, jefferson said some very gracious things to say about him. we can point to all kinds of incidents in our history w