amy: i want to go to national security agency whistleblower thomas drake in his own words. he was initially charged under the espionage act for leaking information about waste management at the agency, but the case against him later collapsed. we talked to drake in 2012 about his case. >> i was charged under the espionage act as part of the indictment handed down april 2010. there were five counts under the espionage act for retaining national defense information. the government alleged a was doing so for the purpose of disclosure. a was also charged with obstruction of justice as well as making false statements to fbi agents. my first day on the job was 9/11. it was shortly after 9/11 i was ofosed to the pandora's box illegality and government wrongdoing on a very significant scale. you had the fraud, waste, and multi-allg used in a you and other program when it was alternatives that actually exexisted and d fulfilled most f the requirements of trailblazer's even before 9/11. amy: what happened to both thomas drake and bill binney and other nsa officials was frightening. we