you say of thomas durrant that he was a buffoon. john murray forbes was near money.silas see what was corrupt and largely incompetent. james harvey's stonebridge was a racist. randall dodge was a liar and an eclectic hated the way to do loudly and a monstrously. sam brandon was a buffoon, another one. folks and was belligerent and obtuse. and a gaggle of southern pacific executives were a divided course and petulant arrogant and inept men. that sounds a little bit like matthew joseph. you say in your introduction that you think the robert pear interpretation of history is likely to be, the most likely misinterpretation of what you try to argue. given that tone and the we do with individual robber barons, how i is that your account is distinguishable in his analytical court from matthew josephson's account and the whole robert pear three? >> one of things after 1012 years of reading the correspondence, much of that is paraphrasing what they said about each other. i gave you one quote. it was the golden age, so when i quote something i often think this is actually pret