capital is john barry here in the studio with me and standing by at the berlin wall the morial is thomas farrowand now thomas coming back to what we just saw not about the euphoria that we saw in the wall came down when people were able to cross back and forth freely across the former border how much does that experience of east and west that the vision still weigh on germans nowadays 30 years on. germany has indeed advanced a lot in these last 3 decades i think there's no doubt about that and the divisions at least many of the divisions have also diminished or at least reduced to something by the way that also officials have said on various occasions at the same time however it is important to stress that there are still divisions real divisions if you will between east and west when it comes for example to 2 salaries one counter-example to pensions the fact that in the east people turn to earn less money in the west and i think there are also sieved divisions perceived differences many in the east many in the eastern part of the country still feel for example that they are as 2nd class citize