thomas ferro is our political correspondent here in berlin. and we asked him what he made, of the very public diplomatic spat between the german and the ukrainian leadership . it was it no one's interest. it was neither in germany's interest nor in ukraine's interest to have this high profile rao at this time, especially when they're so much at stake. and that's the reason probably why pressure was growing specifically here in germany to try and resolve that route and which very probably also led to a phone conversation between the german president and the ukrainian president. it's important to remember that the german president, mr. stein maya had intended to go to ukraine in april, alongside other european leaders. but he himself stressed that it didn't seem that he was very welcome in ukraine. that's probably related to his past as germany's foreign minister and his relationship back then to russia. but that's white for him . it was also particularly important to have that conversation now with mr. salon ski to try and resolve all those dif

thomas gottstein is not any risk off mode. looking at his bank and looking at a financial system beleaguered right now. jon ferroapri, which is a beautiful thing. what have we learned so far? i think it has been a strong start. lisa: i think the churn of uncertainty. trying to solve problems at a moment when we just saw the longest streak of lock -- of losses in the market going back to 2001. how do we pivot in a time of rising inflation? tom: let's dive into conversation with someone who has real world leadership and quality conversations. david rubenstein, you know him of bloomberg television. he's on the board of the world economic forum, and i think owns three cantons in switzerland. wonderful to have you today. is it better in the summer the winter? david: it is a lot easier to get around in the summertime, and you don't have to worry about falling down. i know you had a little slip, but you are ok, right? tom: doing fine. let us talk about what underpins every transaction at carlisle, every transaction for president biden, and that is a financial system where it is priced down, yield up. if i take the lehm