thomas frank's listen liberal was named most preshent book by "the washington post."t that graph back on the screen so that it can seep in a little bit. here is what it says, that in 1940, your odds were 90% when you were 30 years old of earning more than your parents had earned when they were 30. and if you bring it to modern time, it's at about 50%. what key, if any, do you think that holds to understanding the election? >> well, michael, in my opinion this is how you should -- i mean, this is inequality. this is what is the number one issue that undergerds everything that's been going on for us. you know, but this is -- i always think of this in connection with the bernie sanders campaign, the young people who are burdened down by the student loans, who are going out to look for a job out of college and are running into the -- >> limited income. >> that sort of thing. >> and in your book, jd, here is the point i'm taking away, the folks you write about, who you were raised with in appalachia, they didn't need the economists from harvard and stanford and university

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joining me now is thomas frank.tever happens to the party of the people and dowel malloy. >> tom, let me start with you of your analysis of the party that you outlined in many books are simple. the democratic party became a party of professionals who worry all kinds of things like lifestyle and cultural issues and environmental issues and focus on the white working class. i guess the question would be what should the message have been that was not articulated. >> one of the big problems and one of the reasons that hillary's message did not resonate because people did not believe her. she had on paper and all sorts of great ideas. you look at the environment that she's coming into. look, we have been fighting over the same thing for a while over this country and we elected obama eight years ago to deal with the same issues and long story short, he didn't do it. he was not there on a lot of the most important things. and, -- >> specifically what? >> there is a lot of things leading to mind is getting tough with wall s

. >> thomas frank is author of "listen liberal." >> looking at obamacare, the's certain aspects thatmassively popular and to undo them would be to kill your own political future. i think what he'll do is he'll fiddle around with it and call it trump care. you know? he'll adjust it in this way and that. >> no. he'll make good on promises. 32,000 pages in the affordable act known as obamacare and maybe 1 or 2 good things, even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day. having said that, he's made clear the replacement plan. >> trump also has big plans for infrastructure spending as outlined in his victory speech. >> we are going to fix our inner cities. and rebuild our highways, bridges, tunnels, airports, schools, hospitals. we're going to rebuild our infrastructure. and we'll put millions of our people to work as we rebuild it. >> i think this is going to be a battle. he's got two battles there. one is a battle with the democrats because, look, they're not going to -- they may not consider what he wants to spend sufficient and a battle with republicans belittling the stimulus

. >> thomas frank is author of "listen liberal." >> looking at obamacare, the's certain aspects thatmassively popular and to undo them would be to kill your own political future. i think what he'll do is he'll fiddle around with it and call it trump care. you know? he'll adjust it in this way and that. >> no. he'll make good on promises. 32,000 pages in the affordable act known as obamacare and maybe 1 or 2 good things, even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day. having said that, he's made clear the replacement plan. >> trump also has big plans for infrastructure spending as outlined in his victory speech. >> we are going to fix our inner cities. and rebuild our highways, bridges, tunnels, airports, schools, hospitals. we're going to rebuild our infrastructure. and we'll put millions of our people to work as we rebuild it. >> i think this is going to be a battle. he's got two battles there. one is a battle with the democrats because, look, they're not going to -- they may not consider what he wants to spend sufficient and a battle with republicans belittling the stimulus

there's a lot of correspondence, thomas frank, between where trump won and where the american dream is not being utilized. you have argued previously that those folks were nevertheless voting against their own economic interest. >> yeah, well, that's a different story. we'll get to that in a second but there's a lot of maps like that that you could use, michael. the map of shorter life expectancy for people. places where people are using methamphetamine. all of these things. wherever you find the sort of economic despair and destruction, you'll find, i'm sorry to say, a lot of trump voters. and back to about people and their economic interests, well, the idea that trump is going to fix this? come on, now. look at who we appointed to be labor secretary. >> thomas makes the point that the labor secretary is not someone supportive, for example, a minimum wage. will those folks who are in that very dark and shaded part of the country get the relief they're looking for? >> well, i think a lot of folks in that part of the country when they think of the labor secretary, probably more upset ab

thomas and karen? >> 7:33. man died in fishtown, happened about 3:00 at frank forwards and girard.irefighters had flames out in just about a half hour. two firefighters did suffer minor injuries. >>> and developing overnight, man was shot at a bar, cops say the reason, a pool game. they had a fight. this happened at the lounge 62 bar and grill just before midnight. and they call it lounge 62 because right there on the 6200 block of woodland avenue. we know a man, the victim, in his 30's, hit in the torso. he is in critical condition. but they do think he'll live. police say they have a camera inside that captured the whole shooting. >> we've been showing you the video, this is disturbing trends that's sweeping the nationment teens showing up at malls looking to start a fire. shear one. >> wait, wait, wait. >> chaos there. this one was taken at jersey gardens in elizabeth monday night. pen team with hurt, including two pregnant women, and two children, as they try to escape that violence, basically, it started as a small fight and someone said, well, i think someone has a weapon, th