learned to recognize that you can trust like thomas friedman and delays completely trustworthy. and i just thank you have to go to the source to be your own doctor ordered judge for what is real and what is not >> host: it is easy to recognize by consumers have now morphed into packages from the worldwide news gathering organization who use the phrase boots on the ground but as an important distinction to know what is today and was yesterday. >> guest: let me just add something. if you turn to access tv tv, you will find some investigative reporting by the and which is amazing the fact that the muslim community of large part it was against united states long before they invaded iraq and we were not recognizing it for dealing with it. >> speesix -- but how did you do that? >> if that is a very creative idea to have a number of new books hidden around your house. i would just usually keeps 1nn sometimes i will pop been from what i have heard a. at one dinner party arthur and barbara were there. . . >> my name is john doyle and i was assistant u.s. attorney -- [inaudible] -- was u.

the people that are writing the story and learn to recognize who were those you can trust like thomas friedman in "the new york times" he was always completely trustworthy. when he wrote about the middle east. just thinking you have to go to the source to be your own judge what is real and what is not. >> host: the next question is over here. >> what major news gathering organizations have walked into more packages with the difference between a worldwide news gathering organization the packages that what is today? >> guest: can i just tech something non? turned to access tv you will find investigative reporting by the and which is amazing. like the fact the muslim community a large part of it was against the united states while before we invaded iraq. . . we had a dinner party in which ariel sharon was there and arthur gelb and barbara gelb were there. arthur passed away and was very left-wing. barbara is very left-wing and sharon had just invaded lebanon and was not very popular anywhere particularly in the united states. and they had such an argument. i was just itching to listen and write a

. >> i saw a piece by thomas friedman, and he says that ever since the arab awakening, america has worked from one policy response to another. we tried abdication in syria and it failed. we tried democratization in egypt and it failed. we tried invasion and occupation and although the jury is still out only a fool would be optimistic. we do not have the will to invest overwhelming force for the time it would take to reshape any of these places and even if we did, it is not clear it would work. so the middle east is a region we can either fix or ignore, what is left? i am for containment and amplification. does any of that ring true or resonate with you? >> when you look at the entire inventory of what you said, it is pretty hard to disagree with a lot of the points. if we had had such good policies over the years we would not be in the situation. but here is the reality. we live in this imperfect, dynamic, changing, interconnected world that we have never seen before. we have never seen anything like this before. and so policies, yes, are predicated on historical knowledge and cultural aw

this was per thomas friedman when i start down and i quote here, to write the world is flat, facebookdidn't exist. the cloud was still in the sky. 4g was a parking place. linked in with the prison. applications were what you sent to college and skype was a typo. so june 29, 2007, the iphone was introduced. the world changed. the world for us, technologists changed probably for everybody else in the room. non-technologists and technologists alike also changing in dealing with devices that are not as simple as that we used to carry. so that is part of the problem from my perspective. i'm interested in ramifications of the changes in this technology as the subject you're talking about. that is only 7.5 years. only 7.5 years ago. i don't believe there's any other event in the history in the short amount time as ravaged and gone through everything and is going to change everything such as our foundation of our society. in the old and pre-2007 world, we said the site you cannot enumerate all of the attacks. cryptography is a known statement and a faith-based explosion, meaning they cannot d