overthought and now it seems some attempts by the like thomas friedman to back pedal and really being reluctant to even now take a strong stand against. it's clear that the western press went overboard and promoting him as a positive force for change in the region so the the lesson of this is don't fall for these propaganda campaigns when they're presented by arab governments or any government demand facts demand proof and judge people on their actions. not just their nice words and i think this is a lesson for journalists everywhere. the disappearance of jamal khashoggi will resonate with journalists and all kinds of other voices from activists to dissidents to would be revolutionaries and not just in the middle east and she. was not actually a threat to the government it was a voice of reason and the government should have become. voices like he always spoke with respect to saudi. so this. was authentic. then what to say about others that's about silencing voices and this is not confined to saudi arabia. authoritarian governments the world over and even democratic country countries

prime example although he was hardly the only person to write such pieces the new york times is thomas friedman is in the same camp and while he attempted a week mia culpa about the news of disappearance i'm not sure many people are buying it it's important to know that this isn't just american journalists being called out for their prose saudi writing in britain the daily telegraph defense editor kong kauffman has written a couple of articles echoing the saudi line about the show she's disappearance one political commentator took kaufman's writing apart not just this piece but other articles to. accusing him of churning out saudi propaganda often deleted his twitter account soon after and neither he nor his paper have responded to the allegations a lot of fallout continues from the case let's move to me and more now though because three senior journalists have been arrested there who are they and what a.

and other liberal they have been over thought and now they've seen some attempts by the like thomas friedman to back pedal and really being reluctant to even now take a strong stand against. it's clear that the western press went overboard and promoting him as a positive force for change in the region so the the lesson of this is don't fall for the propaganda campaigns when they're presented by arab governments or any government demand facts demand proof and judge people on their action. not just there are nice words and i think this is a lesson for journalists everywhere. the disappearance of jamal khashoggi will resonate with journalists and all kinds of other voices from activists to dissidents to would be revolutionaries and not just in the middle east. was not actually a threat to the government it was a voice of reason. and the government should have become. voices like he always spoke with respect to so deeds. so this. was authentic. in what to say about others that's about silencing voices and this is not confined to saudi arabia. authoritarian governments the world over and even dem

welcome to the program, thomas friedman. >> great to be with you, christiane. >> let's just take the news from the top. what do you make, first and foremost, of the growing fallout? we have at the very last minute the secretary of the treasury pulling out of this crown prince-backed investor conference in the kingdom. we have pompeo, the secretary of state, back from his trips there briefing president trump and they saying let's give it a few more days. what can be going on? what do we need a few more days for, do you think? >> my guess, christiane, is that the saudis are in a complete panic because with the turkish press, "the washington post," "the new york times," cnn, basically everyone has made clear that this killing in the istanbul consulate in the saudi embassy was done by people very, very close to the crown prince and that they apparently were armed with a bone saw. so i think their original desire to say this was just a rogue operation, interrogation that went bad, that's just not going to hold up. so i think they're desperately trying to come up with a concocted cover sto

tank and media circles and just yesterday i had a chance to really read that famous column by thomas friedman of the new york times and in which he's got about how. mohamed bin some months after is it going to reshape the entire islamic world reaches in deep part of the saudi ambition how much of an obstacle is the case to the broader saudi agenda i would say that the saudis will be you. well i think if he stays in power and i think it's likely that he's going to stay in power i think you'll have to show that he was not going to undermine but he will i think you'll be kind of geopolitical political. and the conference that the reference earlier. in the desert i think was designed in part to facilitate. the future. of that country you mentioned that a number of companies had to pull out under the pressure from the public which kind of shifted the spotlight onto the very relatively small russian delegation there do you think it was wise on the part of the russians. rather than pull out. i think it was was a lot of chinese came a lot of a lot of a lot of americans to. i think. for a businessman

western mainstream media has gosh that about the liberal reformer mohammad bin solomon i think thomas friedman great literally love with him and wanted to come out and so he really is sticking by his dreams into theater which i've seen recently and now you know. not one of them can really admit that they were wrong in their their serve on oil you know white washing of muhammad bin solomon in saudi arabia i mean we're talking about a country that regularly they behead people like every day they cut the heads off of women they claim are witches and dissidents all over the place they conduct assassinations of dissidents all over the world. and we're starting like going to act shocked because the child the interesting thing for me glenn is that you know i on this program we have talked about the nature of the saudi regime quite openly and regularly particularly when we were discussing syria over the last years. but it seems that only belatedly. because the river years in the spotlight the people are beginning to talk a little bit more about yemen which we've profiled very often here you know if i

thrall of the new crown prince is alleged reforms are still out there notorious case in point thomas friedman of the new york times he was interviewed on c.n.n. this past week where he defended his previous columns out came the amateur media critics in the comments section and they dismantled friedman's lamentable track record of getting it wrong on the middle east better than we ever could believe it to them and we'll see you next time there at the listening. he will you chip away to call him and brand him the reform to take us through what was going through your mind on what you saw in him that embedded today. so let me start from the beginning for me christiane one of the reasons i want to be on your show today was in time to . and for me the story personally starts with nine eleven. and some people said you know what tom it's all of it's all it's all fake because look what he's doing in yemen where he's you know people that he's arresting here and my attitude was maybe there's clearly a downside here there's clearly an upside and i thought it was worth investing a little hope in the upsid

dr there is continuing to be whitewashing from the business and in the prepaid think tank and thomas friedman is of of the wall. for this dictator and they have done it before to two other saudi leaders so we would that will never go away i think it would be hard to sell him as such and action that that that happened here in america after the disappearance and murder has been that good at latest i have seen i've known about in terms of a medic and the action to anything related to saudi arabia and its selective diffidently because it does not extend to the to the yemeni to the murders in yemen and i think the m.b.'s will continue to be the leader and he's not going to come to washington anytime soon but he will continue to be the leader because he's just simply the guy in charge and no one can dislodge him regardless of what some americans are starting to administration or let's bring back his cousin oh his cousin is not any better than then he is maybe after he's better than his cousin who was. back or the whole let me go to my home and i mean again you know this deal colonial attitude maybe

probably wish they could take them back you really have to believe that some of it was that well thomas friedman calling the embodiment of saudi arabia's arab spring deliberately ignoring the obvious violation of these principles in the arrests of journalists in the crackdown on women activists and other liberal. and now they've seen some attempts. i like thomas freeman to backpedal and i'm really i'm being reluctant to even now take a strong stand against. it's clear that the western press went overboard and promoting him as a positive force for change in the region of the the lesson of this is don't fall for the propaganda campaigns when they're presented by arab governments or any government demand facts demand proof and judge people on their actions not just their nice words and i think this is a lesson for journalists everywhere. the disappearance of jamal khashoggi will resonate with journalists and all kinds of other voices from activists to dissidents who would be revolutionaries and not just in the middle east. was not a threat to the government it was a voice of reason and the governme

prime example although he was hardly the only person to write such pieces the new york times is thomas friedman is in the same camp and while he attempted a week mia culpa about the news of disappearance i'm not sure many people are buying it it's important to know that this isn't just american journalists being called out for their prose saudi writing in britain the daily telegraph defense editor kong kauffman has written a couple of articles echoing the saudi line about the show she's disappearance one political commentator took kaufman's writing apart not just this piece but other articles too accusing him of churning out saudi propaganda often deleted his twitter account soon after and neither he nor his paper have responded to the allegations a lot of fallout continues from the case moved to me and more now though because three senior journalists have been arrested there who are they and what else do we know about the case so these journalists are from the eleven media group editor in chief sure lynn along with managing editor nine men and chief reporter for why when now they were all arre

cushion or that this is a that this is a bridge too far you know you've already seen people like thomas friedman who are one of the. biggest promoters of in sound and in in washington in new york you know calling on him calling on him to release his friend now that you know if it's confirmed that he's been assassinated you that relationship is finished and so as that relationship was severed the relationship with your questioner is frayed and if he doesn't have that then he loses a lot of his ties to donald trump now the structural relationship between trump and the saudis is still there whatever financial relationship might be there as is still there and the joint admiration for joe just a lot of strength would remain but there are also in this country democrats and we're having an election here in zero in november and democrats are already condemning if true the assassination. that took place on tuesday and when they are in power they will have significant influence over united states policy towards saudi arabia so a a strategy of linking up soley with one person donald trump is not a is not a

probably wish they could take them back you really have to believe that some of it was that well thomas friedman calling the embodiment of saudi arabia's arab spring deliberately ignoring the obvious violation of these principles in the arrests of journalists in the crackdown on women activists and other liberal. over thought and now they've seen some attempts by the likes of thomas freeman to back pedal and really being reluctant to even now take a strong stand against. it's clear that the western press went overboard and promoting him as a positive force for change in the region so the the lesson of this is don't fall for the propaganda campaigns when they're presented by arab governments or any government demand facts demand proof and judge people on their actions not just their nice words and i think this is a lesson for journalists everywhere. the disappearance of jamal. resonate with journalists and all kinds of other voices from activists to dissidents to would be revolutionaries and not just in the middle east. it was not actually a threat to the government it was a voice of reason. and

thrall of the new crown prince's alleged reforms are still out there notorious case in point thomas friedman of the new york times he was interviewed on c.n.n. this past week where he defended his previous columns out came the amateur media critics in the comments section and they dismantled the friedmans lamentable track record of getting it wrong on the middle east better than we ever could believe it to them and we'll see you next time there at the listening. he will you to be quick to call him and brand him the reform to take us through what was going through your mind on what you saw in him that embedded today. so let me start from the beginning for me christiane one of the reasons i want to be on your show is i thought it was in time to. and for me the story personally starts with nine eleven. and some people said you know what tom it's all of it's all it's all fake because look what he's doing in yemen look when he's you know people that he was arresting here and my attitude was maybe there's clearly a downside here there's clearly an upside and i thought it was worth investing a litt

thrall of the new crown prince's alleged reforms are still out there notorious case in point thomas friedman of the new york times he was interviewed on c.n.n. this past week where he defended his previous columns out came the amateur media critics in the comments section and they dismantled the friedmans lamentable track record of getting it wrong on the middle east better than we ever could we'll leave it to them and we'll see you next time. he will you too quick to call him and brand him the reform to take us through what was going through your mind on what you saw in him that embedded today. so let me start from the beginning for me christiane is one of those i want to be on your show as i thought it was in time to . and for me the story personally starts with nine eleven. and now some people said you know what tom it's all of it's all it's all fake because look what he's doing in yemen look when he's you know people that he was arresting here and my attitude was maybe there's clearly a downside here there's clearly an upside and i thought it was worth investing a little hope in the upsi

thrall of the new crown prince's alleged reforms are still out there notorious case in point thomas friedman of the new york times he was interviewed on c.n.n. this past week where he defended his previous columns out came the amateur media critics in the comments section and they dismantled the friedmans lamentable track record of getting it wrong on the middle east better than we ever could we'll leave it to them and we'll see you next time there at the listening. he will you chip away to call him and brand him the reform to take us through what was going through your mind on what you saw in him that embedded today. so let me start from the beginning for me christiane as one of those i want to be on your show today was in time to. and for me the story personally starts with nine eleven. and some people said you know what it's all it's all it's all fake because look what he's doing in yemen look where he's you know people that he's arresting here and my attitude was maybe there's clearly a downside here there's clearly an upside and i thought it was worth investing a little hope in the upsi

prime example although he was hardly the only person to write such pieces the new york times is thomas friedman is in the same camp and while he attempted a week mia culpa about the news of disappearance i'm not sure many people are buying it it's important to know that this isn't just american journalists being called out for their prose saudi writing in britain the daily telegraph defense editor kong kauffman has written a couple of articles echoing the saudi line about the show she's disappearance. one political commentator took kaufman's writing apart not just this piece but other articles too accusing him of churning out saudi propaganda kaufman deleted his twitter account soon after and neither he nor his paper have responded to the allegations a lot of fallout continues from the case moved to me and more now though because three senior journalists have been arrested there who are they and what else do we know about the case so these journalists are from the eleven media group editor in chief sure lynn along with managing editor nine men and chief reporter for why when now they were all a

thrall of the new crown prince is alleged reforms are still out there notorious case in point thomas friedman of the new york times he was interviewed on c.n.n. this past week where he defended his previous columns out came the amateur media critics in the comments section and they dismantled friedman's lamentable track record of getting it wrong on the middle east better than we ever could believe it to them and we'll see you next time there at the listening. he will you too quick to call him and brand him the reform to take us through what was going through your mind on what you saw in him that embedded today. so let me start from the beginning for me christiane one of the reasons i want to be on your show today was in time to . and for me the story personally starts with nine eleven. and some people said you know what it's all it's all it's all fake because look what he's doing in yemen look when he's you know people that he was arresting here and my attitude was maybe there's clearly a downside here there's clearly an upside and i thought it was worth investing a little hope in the upside

darling of the new york times and at one point at the promoter of mohammed mr mann and that is thomas friedman today wrote in the new york times that mohammed said listen man needs to go and that any other form in saudi arabia is not possible with this person in charge even though just a year ago of course he was selling him as the guru of all reform so the tables have changed in the media in the centers of power and more on saudi arabia's closest allies now the fact that tom pale the secretary of state of the united states asked mohammed bin sultan to n. vest to get mohammed bin solomon independently and transparently. it's a joke everyone knows it now and bashar our senior political analyst in london thank you it is around six thirty pm in istanbul turkey at the moment these the live pictures from outside the saudi consul general's residence in istanbul not far from the consulate which has already been searched we have seen teams going in. about ninety minutes ago maybe two hours ago would say now when two big vans pulled up in the investigative team went in this is the second part of their

prime example although he was hardly the only person to write such pieces the new york times is thomas friedman is in the same camp and while he attempted a week mia culpa about the news of disappearance i'm not sure many people are buying it it's important to note that this isn't just american journalists being called out for their prose saudi writing in britain the daily telegraph defense editor kong kauffman has written a couple of articles echoing the saudi line about the show she's disappearance. one political commentator took kaufman's writing apart not just this piece but other articles too accusing him of churning out saudi propaganda kaufman deleted his twitter account soon after and neither he nor his paper have responded to the allegations a lot of fallout continues from the case let's move to me and more now though because three senior journalists have been arrested there who are they and what else do we know about the case so these journalists are from the eleven media group editor in chief sure lin along with managing editor nine men and chief reporter for why when now they were a

prime example although he was hardly the only person to write such pieces the new york times is thomas friedman is in the same camp and while he attempted a weak mayor culpeper about the news of disappearance i'm not sure many people are buying it it's important to know that this isn't just american journalists being called out for their prose saudi writing in britain the daily telegraph defense editor concord flynn has written a couple of articles echoing the saudi line about the show she's disappearance. one political commentator took kaufman's writing apart not just this piece but other articles too accusing him of churning out saudi propaganda kaufman deleted his twitter account soon after and neither he nor his paper have responded to the allegations a lot of fallout continues from the case moved to me and more now though because three senior journalists have been arrested there who are they and what else do we know about the case so these journalists are from the eleven media group editor in chief sure lynn along with managing editor nine men and chief reporter for why when now they were