officials described it as a security campaign against illegal migration drugs. trafficking is thomas garofalo, the viet country director of the international rescue committee. this is, europe needs to do more to help the living authorities. the living coast guard is not really capable of monitoring the, the, the crossings. and so we have, he has national rescue committee have have called on the european union to do more to start their own search and rescue operations. that's one thing. on the other side, in libya, there really isn't any visibility into what happens inside the detention centers. we are, we the, the i r c along with you and hcr and, and some other humanitarian agencies have some access into the detention regime. but it's quite incomplete. we're able to provide some assistance of a life saving nature through our medical teams. but a, by and large, the situation is failing the not only the asylum seekers, but also many law abiding peaceful people who have been swept up in this effort by the libyan authorities to, to stop migration. a catholic and conservative groups and mexico ra

well, thomas garofalo is the libya country director for the international rescue committee. he joins us from tunis. good to have you ever. so what happens to some of these refugees and migrants once they're apprehended by libyan authorities? well, they are entirely and they are brought back to libya and they are put into detention . unfortunately, there are no very rare cases when people are released in the vast majority are put into very harsh conditions inside detention centers in libya. ok. but i mean, detention for want, what is the process of the detain because they have entered libya without documentation? are they being repatriated back to their countries? if they came from elsewhere, i mean, what happens in this detention? what is the system? well it's, it's quite opaque actually. unfortunately we, we are, the, is very difficult to track these migrants and asylum seekers. once they go into detention, often they are able to secure their release. but the fact is that 25000 people have been returned this year already in a vast increase from the previous year. and many o