he's looking at the future to see how that will lay out. ,> fiona hill, steven kotkin thomas graham,ank you for the discussion. ♪ we continue with "new yorker" cartoonist roz chast. she has a new graphic memoir, "can't we talk about something more pleasant?" i'm pleased to have a rat this table and always to have her at the "new yorker." roz, you grew up in brooklyn but i don't think it was the brooklyn of modern hipsters. it's not the best i have 20 years ago. you say you hate brooklyn. i hated the brooklyn in which i grew up. that may have a lot to do with where i grew up and how i grew up. it was very, very different. not the hipster brooklyn. it was not even brooklyn heights. deepnk of it as the rocklin, six-story apartment houses, bobbies with plastic flowers but always smelled funny and people having very weird fights we're occasionally a television set would get thrown out the window. not really very encouraging place to grow up. collects when you were a kid, how are you spending your time? burrowing into comic books and old "new yorkers"? >> i never wanted to go outside. that

. >> we continue the conversation on ukraine with fiona hill, steve kotkin and thomas graham. >> we have a very difficult situation in ukraine. par chen co has some form of legitimacy but him being able to put together a policy to bring together the various segments of ukrainian -- of the ukrainian and get a national consensus which is needed in particular to undertake the very difficult economic reforms i think we are going to have to wait and see. it is too much early to declare this crisis over and certainly much too early for washington, brussels, or the government in can i ever to have victory. >> we include with cartoonist roz chast. >> can't we talk about something more pleasant. >> one of the main reasons i write and draw is because i am so afraid if i don't it is all going to be forgotten, you know, and it does feel that way sometimes if i don't draw it, if i don't write it down. >> life and people. >> yes. >> just everything, just everything. >> time just kind of goes on like that. >> ruthlessly. >> ruthlessly. >> and i wrote this and drew this to remember my parents, really. >

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