that you're railing against you have to remember alexander alexander hamilton fought against thomas jefferson in favor of mark into lism alexander stille until the later years of jefferson of course when he actually adopted hamilton's not only in dr brace hamilton some right when he became president right when we came president you know it only took power which is what happens the politicians they say one thing before they get elected and then when they get elected why charlie gibson is no different i know when jefferson was fighting hamilton hamilton was a secretary of the treasury jefferson was secretary of state they were both in george washington kept right so let's talk about the middle class that you really want to create a middle class even paul krugman has argued have made of the basis of one of his thesis that free trade is what alleviate the wrong i debated him on a cruise ship i mean this is the us pariah why how can you say that paul crosses president bill clinton is wrong i mean all of the greatest minds they were after

the good justice betrays either an ignorance of what thomas jefferson's position was or a willful defiance of it. because jefferson wrote several times about how afraid he was about an encroaching corporate tyranny and corporations who already, with their charters would bid fair to the laws of the land, in attempt to go off in their own direction. >> you actually quote jefferson on the rise of a quote "single and splendid government of an aristocracy founded on banking institutions and incorporations." he said they would ride and rule over the plundered ploughman and beggared yeomanry. the ordinary citizenrigh >> well, look, our founders understood power. and one thing that jefferson really believed in, he invented the phrase "the wall of separation between church and state," was dividing power up. and one way we'v've divided pow up over the last century is building a kind of wall of separation between corporate treasury, wealth, and public elections. that wall has been bulldozed by the roberts court. and now they're letting the corporate money flow in. and everybody knows, i think, across

our first secretary of state was thomas jefferson. jefferson said the only legitimate foundation for government is the will of its people, and to preserve free expression should be our first order. from america's first secretary thosete to its 67tht, values have been the same peer in valuing free expression, valuing free assembly, valuing the role of a free press. if you care about any of these values, any of these freedoms in the year 2012, then you have got to believe in the freedom to exercise this on the internet. freedom of speech in 2012 has to extend to the internet. freedom of association and assembly has to extend to the internet. a free press in 2012 passed to extend to the internet. >> does it extend in china? >> it does not. there are a lot of freedoms that have been curtailed in china. but it is really interesting what is happening there -- there are more than 500 million internet users in china. more than 350 million of whom use social media. over 250 million are under the age of 25. on one hand, the chinese government pu

because no less than thomas jefferson told me i had to. he told me i had to. um, he said, as you may know, that every constitution naturally expires at the end of 19 years. because in his math 19 years was a generation. so by his math our constitution, i guess, has been naturally expired for over two centuries, dead, kaput, an exparrot you might say as they do, and i'm just feeling bad. i've been slacking for two centuries, and i owe you all an apology. beyond that, some things have happened in the past few months that i feel like actually gave me, um, put a stamp on my work and said, hey, you did the right thing. to some degree i felt the constitution needed some publicity. even though people cite it for the good ways and reasons we do, and unfortunately sometimes use it as a political battle, as a weapon in a political battle, it also felt like it needed some publicity. i was reassured by that recently as we saw justice ginsburg was in egypt and said if she were redesigning a democracy this day and age, she wouldn't necessarily use the american constitution

george washington who never admitted that he had any party affiliation but alexander hamilton and thomas jefferson formed their own parties very quickly. and, well, anyway, jefferson did win the election of 1800 with burr as his vice president. but jefferson, jefferson, a wonderful individual, who could say the most philosophically high minded things, and then do the most pragmaticly low-minded things, jefferson was as dismissive of legitimacy of parties as anyone, and he was also the first and one of the most effective political bosses in american history. and he decided that burr had to be pushed aside. that the presidency the next time around after jefferson left office would go to another virginian, james madison. so burr got pushed to the side. meanwhile alexander hamilton had been pushed to the side because he had fallen out with the mainstream of the federalists. so both of these men were in a position where their prospects were not quite living up to their ambitions and so they got afoul of each other because hamilton said some very nasty things about burr in one of the political campaigns

what is thomas jefferson asking for?s are wrong. >> right. >> there were scientific studies out a year ago that said a large swath of voters, when they're presented with facts that contradict their ideology, they actually dig in more on their own belief system. and i don't think it's just limited to conservatives. >> liberals do it too. >> absolutely. i learn it every day on the radio. you put a fact out there and people say, i'm not going to believe it. and you start debating whether the water is wet and the sky is blue. thing we're living in such a time where ideology has become so important in the public's mind, i'm ott this side or i'm on that side, red versus blue, that sadly what we're really lamenting is when we put the facts out there, one side if the facts are inconvenient is simply not accepting of the idea that it's a fact. >> i'm not going to go -- i'm not going to go that far. >> you seem to thing -- you're the optimist at the table. >> not only does it matter. i mean politifact -- rachel just destroyed it.

thomas jefferson and james madison were perilously to undo the church's influence in government in seven hundred seventy nine jefferson author of the virginia statute of religious freedom a law in virginia which ensure that the state would have no established religion whatsoever jefferson was so proud of that job of that work that he made sure to include on his tombstone that he was the author of the virginia statute for religious freedom over the fact that he was the third present in a state which doesn't appear on his tombstone james madison the father of our constitution which by the way does not contain the word god either wrote extensively on the issue of separating church and state as he said in eight hundred twenty two letters and alliance or coalition between government and religion cannot be too carefully guarded against every new and successful example therefore of a perfect separation between ecclesiastical and civil matters is of importance religion and government will exist in greater purity without rather than with the aid of government and medicines very first veto as pres

america public education has a long and fruitful history in our nation its biggest proponent thomas jefferson who wrote the difficult ration of independence established the university of virginia for the sole purpose of giving the common man access to a good education it was free he was so proud of his accomplishment he made sure his tombstone said father of the university of virginia and it didn't even mention he was the third president as states for two terms as jefferson said in eight hundred eighteen now let us see what the schools the president primary schools cost us on the supposition that all of the children of ten eleven and twelve years old are as they ought to be at school and if they are not so much the work is the system for they will be untaught and their ignorance and vices will in future life cost us more dearer in their consequences than it would have done in their correction by a good education but the work that jefferson did at the opening onset of america the opening years of this country and the work advocates of public education have done for the next two hundred years t

i heard on the radio that thomas jefferson owned slaves. he bowed to cultural pressure. some things are just wrong. week 32, i make the mistake of telling my mom i'm struggling with circumcision. i don't think so. i think of the stuff that can get caught in the vagina. that's not nice. andrea. if this child is jewish. he needs to be sircumicized. you don't want your boy to feel strange. that's true. i think my anxiety is fear of having a boy. i am terrified of boys. they are wild and smelly. i said, there is no way to know that. well i know for a fact you don't need it. like i wanted to talk to my dad about his penis. week 34, i don't have the double wide vagina i was hoping for. with just six weeks to go. instructions for peroneal massage. lock hands. apply lubricant. extra virgin olive oil. hold the thumb in place for two minutes or until it becomes numb. slowly massage over the vagina. it's best done with a partner. instead, i take a back door approach and use my finger. i have a lot of stretching to do. week 41, 3:45 p.m. it feels like i have to pee and poo. she says

along came thomas jefferson, the first democratic president in 18 01.e decided we were going to -- in 1801. he said nothing would stop the demand of these pilots -- pirates. it will be more economical to use the same means at once. he built the navy and deployed that american navy to the enemy. our troops were victorious and the message to the world was clear. we will not tolerate attacks on our citizens or our sovereignty and you do so at your own peril. [cheers and applause] it was thomas jefferson's policy of strength and determination in complete contrast to the policy of the obama administration of apology and appeasement that has been our american tradition of foreign policy. all political parties, democrats and republicans ever since. where has that american spirit gone? where are the travis' at the alamo who told the enemy, here and no further? where are the generals like washington and grant and sherman who understood that victory is the only goal of war because they understood the terrible consequences of defeat. i am reminded of general macar

vice president, executive editor of random house, and it is author of the forthcoming book, thomas jefferson, the art of power. welcome. you have said that this may be, we may be moving towards a time of political conventions should be a day rather than a week. >> i hope so. i wrote that at the new york times, and went to tampa and i found no one who disagreed with me, including all of the poobahs of the party who came to me one after the other, you are so right we have to get rid of the system. first of all they are very expensive. haylehaley barbour they spent $11 million when bob dole was nominated, he figured they were spending 7 million on security alone in tampa. and the only reason i am saying that, it is not selfish to say three days i think it shuts down the country if you reformatted it in a way one day, one night, vice president, gives a speech, introduces the president or the president's wife or the president's husband, the nominees' husband and then they give their speech, they have a family on stage, that is all that is needed to get the get the vote out rallies around the coun

thomas jefferson had the same problem in his election. as a result, he stopped reading newspapers in his second term as president. it is not a new problem with us. the notion of exaggeration if not downright lying, i think, is a real issue. i noticed some journalists have come to our assistance by producing truth meters in which they assess the relative degree of truth, or truthiness, of various political ads. that is one way we can try to put a check on the politicians. i agree we have a serious issue with it. >> last question, how can we as parents or grandparents create an honor code in your family? >> that is a great question. you know, i think one of the best things you can do is to talk with children and grandchildren about what is important and why. it is important to us that the engineers were honest in the building bridges. otherwise, the bridges will fall in. it is important to us that the people we work for are honest in terms of payroll. we can get the money we need to get groceries. there are lots of ways a young child can un

a principled idea, for thomas jefferson it was very straightforwardly the survival and success of a kind of american republicanism, we were locked in a 50 year war with great britain that ran from the end of the french and indian war until andrew jackson and the treaty of again in 18 february, 1815 and it was not unlike the cold war, it was an existential struggle and one of those wonderful arguments you can make because the british did come back in 1812, not a provisional argument, came back to washington. >> came back, that's right, and what he believed in the survival of the country, but he would depart from dogma at the drop of a hat to serve that cause, and the greatest example is louisiana purchase, which he believed required avid constitutional amendment, and then he got a letter from his people in trance saying napoleon is having second thoughts and suddenly well i think this will be just fine, i think we will take this and we will be okay and that gave us brokaw's country out there. >> rose: yes indeed. brother brokaw, what book are you reading we ought to know about? >> there i

>> if thomas jefferson wins, murder, adultery, rain, and incest will be openly taught and practiced.re you prepared to see your dwellings in flames? female chasety violated? children rising on a pike? stossel: they used actual statements made by them. editor in chief is nick, and you made that because you were sick of hearing how much worse everything is now? >> yeah. every political election seems to be worse than the previous one. that's what we hear, but, in fact, when you crack a history book, you find out it's pretty much status quo. stossel: the example of jefferson and adams, and seven elections later? >> yeah, things called coffin handbills accused jackson of massacring indians, illegally executing soldiers for desert and other war crimes. a minister to russia, accused of pimping out the maid to the czar of russia. good times. stossel: skip ahead 15 more elections. grover cleveland runs for president. >> yeah, you know, of course, he didn't run for anything, but shambled slowly if you saw his size. he had an out of wedlock child, and that was an issue. there was a famous cart

he used to take great pride in telling of the trip that thomas jefferson and james madison made up theson river in the 1800's searching for butterflies. but they ended up down in new york city and that they formed the democratic party. he took great pride in the fact that the democratic party was the oldest political party in the world, and he knew -- [applause] -- he knew of the linkage of madison and jefferson with the leaders in new york, combined the north and the south to combine the industrial areas of the country with the rural farms. that this combination was always dedicated to progress. all of our presidents have been dedicated to progress, from thomas jefferson in the louisiana purchase, and when thomas jefferson also realized that the united states could not remain on the eastern seaboard, he sent lewis and clark to the west coast. of andrew jackson, of woodrow wilson, of franklin roosevelt who said our citizens were in great despair because of the financial crisis, of harry truman, who not only spoke, but acted for freedom. [applause] so that when he became president, not

our first secretary of state was thomas jefferson, and jefferson said the only legitimate foundationfor government is the will of its people and to preserve its free expression should be our first order. so from america's first secretary of state to its 67th secretary of state, the values have been the same. valuing free expression, valuing the freedoms of association and assembly, valuing the role of a free press. if you care about any of these values, if you care about any of these freedoms in the year 2012, then you gotta believe in the freedom to exercise this on the internet. the freedom of speech in 2012 has to extend to the internet. the freedom of association and assembly in 2012 has to extend to the internet. a free press in 2012 has to extend to the internet. >> host: does it extend in china? >> guest: it doesn't. you know, there are a lot of freedoms that have been curtailed in china. but it's really interesting what's happening there. there are more than half a billion internet users in china, more than 350 million of whom use social media. and over a quarter billion of w

>> well, i think if you had taken a poll back in thomas jefferson's time and earlier in the country'stime, you would have been able to say that the congress even then was a football to kick. that has not changed. nor will it change. the summit has always been a source of ridicule by the public. mark twain and will rogers and others may have been part of their career in the house and the senate. it is only recently there has been polling about this. but i think in the past you would seen probably the same. >> part of the job? >> part of the job. >> back to entitlements for a minute. it seems like people don't want to believe that the deficit is the result of programs that they really like. i wonder if as appropriations chairman you have come up with a snappy comeback for why waste, fraud, and abuse is not going to get us there. >> i wish i had a snappy answer to that. [laughter] but, you know, over half the american people draw a check, and over half pay no taxes. so it narrows the field of people who are deeply, deeply concerned about each of these programs. nevertheless, whatever we

where is thomas jefferson or nelson man dallas? the leadership is distributed. there aren't go-to leaders around whom the country will rally. there right-hand turn institutions as in poll lane with the solidarity movement behind them a new government can be formed. it presents enormous challenges to the state democrat and presents even bigger challenges frankly to the people in a country that is just overthrown the ruler has to then ask itself what now? who is going to lead us. there are both god aspects and negatives a pockets to the roll of the internet in propelling the movements. >> host: you mentioned robert ford's work in syria. he ceptd up even since the ambassador has been close there had. and virtual embassy in teheran. where do they fall short? glrg they fall well short of what a real traditional embassy can do because what facebook doesn't do is replace the very necessary work of engaging face to face. i do think we're able to engage with people that's a good thing. but it's something considerably less than having 100 anemia a country getting to know

on a side note, some people seem to think that thomas jefferson created the honor system when he created the university. but that is not true. self-government's began with an ugly incident in the uterus these early years, several years after thomas jefferson's death. on the night of november 12, 1840, after a while a student shenanigans, a masked students shot and killed a popular law -- law professor named john davis who had come outside to try to get the students under control. ashamed of their misbehavior, the students agreed to a plan for which they accounted for themselves and each other. in the same spirit, the faculty established an honor pledge on examinations, agreeing to trust students when they pledged that they had been received nor give assistance on their school work. other schools have the honor code, including military academies. many colleges and universities across the country have tier--- have peer-enforced codes of honor. of course, many of our colleges and universities do not have honor codes or systems of self- government. instead, they rely on faculty and administr

. >> why did thomas jefferson become consumed with revising the bible by omitting a lot of it in his own text of the bible as you began your book with? >> well, presumably it's not because he didn't have anything else to do, i mean, he was a pretty busy guy in the white house but he ordered a couple books from england, a couple bibles and he sat there in the white house and he cut and pasted and took out the miracles and took out the resurrection. he believed jesus was a good guy, he believed he was one of the most important philosophers ever but he didn't like christianity and he was able to separate out christianity from jesus, say no to christianity and say yes to yeast. >> how many of the colonists, what percentage were religiously affiliated or had had religious beliefs in some specific denomination? >> i'm not sure the percentage. but much smaller percentage of churchgoers than we have now. something more on the order of, i don't know, one out of five rather than the vast majority. and those who were christians and who did go to crunch typically didn't think a lot about jesus e

[applause] it was thomas jefferson's policy of strength and determination and complete contrast to theama administration of apology and appeasement. it's been our american tradition of foreign policy and all political parties, democrats and republicans ever since. where has the american spirit gone? where are the william barret travis's of the alamo that told the enemies here and no further? where are the generals like washington, jackson, grant, sherman, eisenhower, patton, who understood that victory is the only goal of the war because they understood the terrible consequences of defeat. i'm reminded of general macarthur, who led troops across the pacific in the face of severe military aggression. and in his speech to the cadets at west point, he told those young warriors the longline has never failed us. were you to do so, a million ghosts and brown khakis and a blue and gray would rise from the cross is summoning those magic words "duty, honor, country" since we live in desperate times where we need to come together as americans, remembering this gift of freedom and liberty given t

the passage of the alien sedition laws but even back in seventeen ninety eight vice president thomas jefferson protested by leaving town the day adam signed the law and then ran against and beat adams two years later in the election of one thousand nine hundred largely on the issue of adams having shut down the press historically our press has largely been notepad and tape recorders as you being used as david sling shots going up against the goal liath army of the state. but in the age of wiki leaks and the internet journalists are on even more ground and the powers that be are scared to death and no matter what happens to join us on your wiki leaks this sort of internet journalism is here to stay and that's the way it is that i thursday september twenty seventh two thousand and twelve don't forget tag your it. world with. its technology innovation all the rest of the immense from around russia we've got the future covered. quite.

presidency the passage of the ailing sedition laws but even back in seventeen ninety eight president thomas jefferson protested by leaving town the day adam signed the law and then ran against and beat adams two years later in the election of eight hundred largely on the issue of adams having shut down the press historically our press has largely been notepad and tape recorders as you being used as david sling shots going up against the goal liath army of the state. but in the age of wiki leaks and the internet journalists are even more ground and the powers that be are scared to death and no matter what happens to join us on your wiki leaks this sort of internet journalism is here to stay and that's the way it is that i thursday september twenty seventh two thousand and twelve don't forget tag your it. download the official application to choose your language stream quality and enjoyed your favorites from alzheimer's t.v. is not required to watch on t.v. all you need is your mobile device to watch r.t. any time. you will go to the should really be sure swimming bird you can catch both at the premier

in fact most constitutional scholars acknowledge the founders were intent on building what thomas jefferson called that wall of separation between church and state, even if that phrase doesn't appear in the text of the constitution. james madison, fourth president, one of the architects of the constitution, wrote that religious beliefs quote are not the object of civil government nor jurisdiction. a few that is diametrically opposed in the agenda of most religious right leaders today. in the book i quote a variety of other founding fathers and their objections to a bible-based state and indeed some of their contemporaries actually criticize the founders for their explicit omission of religious references of the constitution. the reverend timothy dwight for example who was then president of yale university, said the united states has quote offended providence because we formed our constitution without any acknowledgment of god unquote and yet in spite of this overwhelming historical evidence the founders did indeed strive for that separation that thomas jefferson spoke of. most religious rig

in fact most constitutional scholars acknowledge the founders were intent on building what thomas jefferson called the wall of separation between church and state even if that phrase doesn't appear in the constitution. james madison, one of the architect of the constitution, religious beliefs, quote, are not the object of civil government or under its jurisdiction. a few that is diametrically opposed to the agenda of most religious right leaders today. in the book by quote a variety of other founding fathers and their objections in the bible based states and some of their contemporaries actually criticized the founders for their explicit of mission of religious references in the constitution. the rev. timothy white, hands offended providence because we formed our constitution with no acknowledgment of god and yet in spite of this overwhelming historical evidence the founders did indeed strive for the separation thomas jefferson spoke of most religious right leaders continue to mock the concept of a secular state. in their world of the 1915s based in memory for most americans, religious righ

thomas jefferson had the same problem in his election. as a result, he stopped reading newspapers in his second term as president. it is not a new problem with us. the notion of exaggeration if not downright lying, i think, is a real issue. i noticed some journalists have come to our assistance by producing truth meters in which they assess the relative degree of truth, or truthiness, of various political ads. that is one way we can try to put a check on the politicians. i agree we have a serious issue with it. >> last question, how can we as parents or grandparents create an honor code in your family? >> that is a great question. you know, i think one of the best things you can do is to talk with children and grandchildren about what is important and why. it is important to us that the engineers were honest in the building bridges. otherwise, the bridges will fall in. it is important to us that the people we work for are honest in terms of payroll. we can get the money we need to get groceries. there are lots of ways a young child can un

over how we as a nation will educate our children but we embrace the public school system that thomas jefferson and horace mann works hard to create support teachers who perform one of the most important jobs in our society or we will we hand off educating our kids to the money changers in the corporate c.e.o.'s who see education as a get rich quick scheme keep an eye on the windy city for more on this who are bring in mike staff writer for in these times and neil mccabe stan a staff writer for human events gentlemen great to have you both with us mike what's your take on the story behind the story or what's going on with the strike or i mean what's going on in this strike is basically the chicago schools are in a position where they're not able to operate i mean you've got mary manual throwing folks out left and right you've got zero funding compared to the suburbs chicago schools have a third of the funding the chicago suburbs meanwhile rahm emanuel is diverting taxpayer money away from the schools in the form of tiffs and sending them to groups like penny pritzker who's the owner of hyatt ho

americans rose up and rioted against a system of government that was oppressive and unfair as thomas jefferson wrote the declaration of independence when a long train of abuses and usurpations pursuing invariably the same object even says a design to reduce them under absolute despotism it is their right it is their duty to throw off such government the history of the present king of great britain has a history of repeated injuries and use your patience all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states you see people don't riot when times are good in iraq when they're pushed to it the people of both egypt and libya have seen the united states support dictators in their countries for generations they've seen us funder oppressive and violent armies and police forces they watch our transnational corporations work with local oligarchy to keep the rich fabulously rich and the poor in poverty. just like in the united states when red lining was legal and regularly done keeping poor neighborhoods poor were discrimination and badly funded schools conspire to reduce