andrew johnson, and her most recent book in paperback today is, most blessed of the patriarchs, thomas jefferson, and the empire of the imagination. when it comes to jefferson as i said earlier, we are fortunate to have dr. gordon reed here. no one knows the public and private jefferson quite as well as she does. the relationship between our third president and his own slaves is one she first exported 1997. that's both thomas jefferson and sally hemming, an american controversy. she came to the subject again more than a decade later with her 2009 book the hemmings is of monticello and american family, which won both the natural book award in the pulitzer prize for history. it's this book and subject that bring us together tonight. it is an important topic, and for some, uncomfortable topic, to be sure. as a historian, joseph ellis said quote, thomas jefferson is described as a slave -- described his slaves of monticello as, my family. gordon returned that description seriously. surely more than jefferson avenue -- ever intended. it's not a pretty story, but it's poignant beyond belief. -- and is

understand it, he has brothers, or a brother who possibly -- i'm not sure that -- does dna say thomas jefferson or someone else? >> the dna supported what i said, but it's not a paternity test. the reason i believe it's jefferson, not just the dna -- it's other information that i compiled in my first book. it's the totality of the circumstances. the brother has no written connection to sally hemmings. you can't -- that's not historical to say -- if you have a situation where jefferson's friends are writing about him in their diary, people who visit monticello are writing about them and their letters -- the names of the children are up on them for his best friends and favorite relatives. it's the kind of thing that he genealogist would do. look at the totality of the circumstances, then you put the dna on it. the family basically -- the jefferson family basically made up a story about who was the father of the children. the dna killed that. if they would have known that it was jefferson's brother, they would've known that and would've picked him. but they didn't know that there would come a day

it is perhaps appropriate that on thomas jefferson's birthday, we bring to you one of our most prestigious speakers. one of jefferson's cleverest biographers. professor annette gordon reed is the one who definitively cracked the case, as our speaker on tuesday might have said, on one of american history's most complex and now expunged -- until now, expunged stories, which is the relationship between the jeffersons and the hemmings. professor gordon reed is the charles morin professor of american legal history, and a professor of history arts and science at harvard university. she has a jaw dropping list of honors, i will read you a few. fellowship from the dorothy and lose the common center for scholars and writers at the new york public library, a guggenheim fellowship, a macarthur fellowship, the national humanities medal, and the woman of power and influence award from the national organization for women in new york city. she has written extensively on both seen and unseen americans, including a biography of andrew johnson, and her most recent book in paperback today is, most blessed of

thomas jefferson was a randolph, edmund randolph was a randolph. at one point when he was governor, the lieutenant governor was another randolph. jeffersons idea here was not only that the feudal land tenure should be eliminated so the gigantic landholdings would be broken up. that is so that we would announce that the market would allow the version of landholdings. but he also proposed in his draft constitution for virginia in 1776 that if you were a virginia man and you depend on 50 acres of land, he would be given 50 acres of land. virginia was an open space extending all the way to wisconsin. why not make everybody a small farmer by giving everybody a small farm. we have all of this land and this is all avoiding the question because we don't really know the answer. it's weird when you think about it. somebody should have been watching the situation and decide if therdecided has therea monarch because george washington was the closest thing. i could have supreme executive authority, but i don't want to. so, somebody like george washington despite

monticello was really thomas jefferson's home for his entire life. he's born on this plantation, in 1743, just three miles away from where he builds this home. he inherits this plantation from his father. his father dies when jefferson's 14. as a young man, he will inherit this land as well as the slaves that his father owned, and jefferson is going to decide to build up here on this mountaintop at a very young age. this is jefferson's home his entire life. jefferson is trying to use that plantation to make money. like most virginia plantation owners, he has cash crops, primarily tobacco and later in his life, wheat. he has mixed success in turning a profit off of this plantation, but here on this mountaintop, this is also the center of his home life as well. throughout his retirement years, once the house is complete, this home is filled with his family members. his daughter and her husband move into this home, so this would have been a home filled with his family members as well as guests. throughout jefferson's retirement years, as a very public of

and then thomas jefferson. washington was the first president of the united states, jefferson was the third. where is president number two? john adams? he's not here. that was a mistake for mr. bens. here's the letter in albert small's collection. the original letter written by john adams to john bens complaining about adams' absence from this print. and sent a copy of his print to john adams who when he received it was horrified to find that his portrait was missing from the print. therefore, he returned it to john bens along with this letter, saying i'm returning this. please do not send another copy. in 1823, perhaps the most important facsimile reproduction of the declaration of independence was issued. this is the so-called stone broadside. this print was actually taken directly from the original manuscript in -- and now on display in the national archives. as you know if you've seen the original it's quite faded. one of the reasons that it is faded is that the treatment received at the time that this print

this is a letter from thomas hornsby to thomas jefferson. it is in really condition. to ink that the author used write the letter has corroded in a spectacular fashion so that pieces of paper are dropping out. and they are dropping out where the letters in the sentences have literally eaten through the paper. thisgoing is naturally -- ink is naturally corrosive. people back in the day used glass balls. egg, theyp lays an put their abdomen near the tree, lay the egg into the tree. the tree starts to push it out. that is how you get this lump called a gall. people got the idea of chopping these trees of and initiating a chemical reaction, mixing it with iron filings and water to make this ink. the ink naturally corrodes. it starts out yellow and clear, then turns dark brown as the air mixes to dry it. in the case of this letter, there is unusual corrosion in the form of this yellowish opa crystal, maybe something else that has risen to the surface of the paper. we are trying to find a corrosion expert to work with to come up with a responsible treatment proposal. nkanda

. ♪ >> sunday on the presidency, historian and it's gordon reed talks about thomas jefferson and hisationship with the slaves hemmings family who lived and worked as his monticello plantation. here is a preview. >> one of the reasons it was dismissedsk miss -- the story of the hemmings family is because people didn't know anything about the family, other than that there was a scandal. the nuven and sally hemmings as they may have known james hemmings, her brother, the chef. by and large, people didn't know that much. if i could tell the story, that made people feel that they had a stake in the, then it might give people pause in the future about dismissing the story of enslaved people. i live in manhattan. partly in manhattan, partly it in cambridge. --hattan's big city, routed crowded, anonymous. when you meet somebody in the neighborhood, i immediately see them after that. and you are introduced to someone you see them all the time, you have walked past them before but you didn't know them. once you know them, you notice their children, you notice when you don't see the more you ex

me ofe the figures behind thomas jefferson. we unpacked the story of voices of freedom. the voices of jefferson and banneker are phyllis wheatley. all voices of freedom. to me about the connection of banneker and jefferson is banneker sending his almanac to jefferson and stating that african-americans are brilliant. they are human. they contribute to the development of the nation and deserve to be free. thomas jefferson essentially said you are the exception and freedom was not going to come during his particular time in life. this is a human story. in the midst of all of this inhumanity, you still have african-americans fighting for freedom, fighting for liberty, fighting for the nation to recognize them as citizens in this world. atwe go forward we look ,hile they were laws african-americans found ways to go a around those laws and hold on to their humanity. many things happened after the revolutionary war, including the development of the cotton gin in 1793 and the louisiana purchase in 1803 and the end of the international slave trade in 18 away. what did that mean?

[speaking in native tongue] let me conclude by once again quoting president thomas jefferson when he said quote in matters of style, swim with the current, and letters of principle, stand like iraq. i see the company is a partnership between vietnam and the united states as the main current. and i expect each of us will stand like iraq when it comes to our principles of cooperation those of the quality, future benefits and respect for the aim in asian pacific region of peace, stability and prosperity. [speaking in native tongue] thank you very much. [applause] >> mr. prime minister, thank you for taking some time to answer some collections questions we have collected from the audience. [speaking in native tongue] one question is what is vietnam's position on that development of the security architecture in the asia-pacific? [speaking in native tongue] i think before answering this question i do not want my ministers to be unemployed [. [speaking in native tongue] i would like to also give the floor to some of my ministers and generals to respond to some of your questions allow me fir

in other words, when thomas jefferson writes in the declaration of independence that all men are created equal, these guys, who crafted the constitution of 1776 are actually going to take that seriously. they're going to say, ok, if all men are created equal, and all men have rights, let's build the government around that. this also would be the philosophy of many of the members who wrote the andtitutional convention are influenced by what english quaker? thomas paine. we would get to him in a second. even though he is not one of the people that wrote the constitution of 1776, he is probably the most influential thinker who influenced those who did write it. first thing i want to do, i want to think about who is in the room. who are the kind of people that are crafting this constitution? who are the people that are saying, how should we roll at home? we should rule democratically at home because we take the revolution very seriously. some of the background here, the pennsylvania constitutional convention meets from july 15 to september 28. here is a 1778 sketch of the statehouse. for our

intellectually and extremely well educated in a broad range of areas, benjamin franklin and thomas jefferson being well versed in science and debating in scientific experiments. following the birth of the united states, development of populist conception of education equating education with elitism and the fostering the notion that common sense was just good enough and people did not really need to be educated and that fostered receptivism to conspiracy theorist, misinformation, to deliver spread of false information for political reasons and the historical roots of the great paradox that you mentioned which is that america is a country with great universities, madeer tremendous contributions, so many great american thinkers and writers and at the same time we have great skepticism of education including amongst somt of the nation's leaders. >> you were raised in paris, and over here it's liberty and freedom, it's a different concept completely, isn't it? >> yes and no. >> different approach? >> what's really interesting is that america and france are both nations born of enlightenment ideas

at 8:00 on the presidency, historian annette gordon reed on the relationship between thomas jefferson and the enslaved hemmens family. >> people as property who could be bought and sold. that was a thing many members of whatevery, despite sally and her children might have had, they all lived with the specter of the possibility that could happen because the law construed them as property construed them as property. >> for our complete american history tv schedule, go to c-span.org. host: we are joined by gerald connolly, serves on the oversight governmental reform committee. you are featured on the website politico this morning talking about the idea that democrats are secretly hoping for a vote on health care. is that the case? not this democrat peer the better wisdom is to move on. obamacare is achieving the goals it was set up to achieve in helping millions of americans and to snatch away that health care coverage i think would be a catastrophic event in american political life. what i'm trying to do is basically worn my moderate republican friends, you are staring death in the face

we're doing, what thomas jefferson wanted to see in our democracy.ave moveon.org getting involved with the resistance hashtag and you've got a whole lot of other groups getting involved. sharyl: behind the resistance across the country, there are some big money names. for example, one sponsor of the movement is moveon.org. its top donors in 2016 were facebook co-founder dustin moskovitz and his wife. they gave $2.5 million. another top moveon donor is environmentalist and hedge fund mogul tom steyer who has given $160 million to liberal causes since 2014. as an outsider, i see republicans in charge of the house, the senate, and the white house. and yet, i feel like democrats are able to, through their organization, direct the conversation right now. rep. mark meadows: well, they are directing it, and of course, that makes me a little uncomfortable here in my chair, you know, as you see that, because you're seeing what is actually the case. sharyl: republican congressman mark meadows. rep. meadows: we're seeing at town halls across the country a real

better agricultural land, bigger plots, and close to his friend and mentor, thomas jefferson. went off to france as a minister to them and, in the mid-1790's, was there and was -- of given jefferson oversight the siting of my buildings as he says. the placement of the buildings and choices of where things will go. there are nice letters back and forth. he buys nails from jefferson starting in 1796. the piece that i talk about in the newspaper article that one of you no doubt has in your thatction, the other thing is about to show up, any day, and the u.s. postal service is the model that's monroe sent to jefferson from france. [laughter] i have some pictures with

better agricultural land, bigger plots, and close to his friend and mentor, thomas jefferson. he went off to france as a minister to france and in the mid-1790's, was there and was -- sort of gave jefferson oversight the sighting of my buildings as he says. the placement of the buildings and choices of where things will go. there are nice letters back and forth. he buys nails from jefferson starting in 1796. the piece that i talk about in the newspaper article that one of you no doubt has in your collection, the other thing that is about to show up, any day, in the u.s. postal service is the model that monroe sent to jefferson from france. carriercture the mail with his paper wrap they're . going to show up one day and hand that to me. i'm positive. less inn was more or charge and he was moving from a smaller property to the bigger house in 1799. >> [inaudible] [laughter] sara bon-harper: that is a good point. i will go home and do that. thank you very much. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2017] [captioning performed by the national captioning inst

announcer: at 8:00 on the presidency, his story and on the relationship between thomas jefferson and the enslaved hemmings family. >> people as property who could be bought and sold. manywas a thing that members of the hearings family despite whatever privilege sally and her children may have had, they all lived with the specter of possibility that that could happen because of the law construed them as property. in jefferson construed them as property. announcer: for our complete schedule, go to www.c-span.org. announcer: next on american history tv, we hear intelligence experts discuss some of the most notable espionage sites in the nation's capital including embassies, hotels and even walking paths. the presentation focuses on their new book "spy sites of washington dc." the international spy museum in washington, d.c. hosted the event. it is about 90 minutes. >> welcome, we are delighted to see you. i am the executive director and i think you are in for a scintillating evening.

directly behind me, you see the figures of benjamin banneker and thomas jefferson. we really unpack the story of voices of freedom. areuded on the platform others as well as phyllis wheatley. all voices of freedom. what is powerful to me about the connections between banneker and jefferson include banneker sending his almanac to jefferson and stating that african americans are brilliant. they are human. they contribute to the development of the nation and deserve to be free. excuse me if i paraphrase, but thomas jefferson essentially said you are the exception and freedom was not going to come during his particular time in life. why don't we go forward and look at making a way. remember, this is a human story. in the midst of all of this inhumanity, you still have african americans again fighting for freedom, fighting for liberty, fighting for the nation to recognize them as citizens in this world. but as we go forward, we look at while there were laws restricting them, african americans found ways to go around those laws and hold on to their humanity. understand th

> and at 8:00 on the presidency -- historian annette gordon reed on the relationship between thomas jefferson and the enslaved hemmings family. >> people as property who can be bought and sold and that was a thing that many members of the hemmings family despite whatever privilege that sally hemmings and her children might have had, they all lived with the specter or the possibility that that could happen because the la construed them as property. >> for our american history tv schedule go to www.c-span.org. >>> scottish historian mile ferguson debated the future of geopolitics. they looked at nationalism around the world. it was part of the munk debate series. >> and i would argue that's a much better gamble for the future than to continue the current system, the current policies, the current bureaucracies, the current mess if washington. that's why i think we have a much better chance of making america great again with donald trump.

eastern on c-span. >> a talks about thomas jefferson and his relationship with the enslaved hemmings family who lived and worked on his monticello plantation. she focuses on sally hemmings, who she argues had six children by jefferson. she is the author of the hemmings of minas tello -- monticello. this was part of the great lives lecture series. [applause] >> is perhaps appropriate that on thomas jefferson's

between thomas jefferson and the enslaved hemings family. >> people as property that could -- bought and sold. they all lived with the specter of the possibility that, that could happen, because the law construed them as property. and at jefferson construed them as property. >> for our complete schedule go to c-span.org. tv was at ahistory meeting in new orleans where we spoke with kate epstein about the relationship between the u.s. military and the private sector. ms. epstein wrote "torpedo: inventing the military-industrial complex in the united states and great britain." about 15rview is minutes. >> your area of study is a national security and intellectual property. -- twoo those h intersect? ms. epstein: i look at how the u.s. government tried to work with the defense contracting sector to acquire modern industrial weaponry, and the government's desire to gain technology on the cheap or for nothing came into conflict with the intellectual property interests or rights of the private sector. i am concerned how the legal issues got resolved and how they interpreted to the emergenc

look at how you try to make thomas jefferson look terrible.applause] [laughter] so you will help me in this exercise. some people who did contribute to washington success . first of all was ben franklin in 1788. how many people believe we would have won the revolutionary war without the french? that doesn't leave the auditorium. [laughter] most of the people i talked to -- where was thomas during philadelphia's convention? paris. what about when it was ratified during -- in the state of virginia? paris. the musical -- a year and a half ago when i saw the. whats jefferson comes back did i miss? out that he was selected for secretary of state. you will see he perform that -- performed that. let's go over to the three here. next, the treaty of paris. do you think that was important? yes great they had a real contribution to washington in the war. france would have to sign off on the peace terms with britain. he went over and said no way, this is our country trade there's no way a country will determine our independence. french, we only won becaus

. >> and at 8:00, on the presidency, the relationship between thomas jefferson and the enslaved hemings family. >> people as property that could be bought and sold despite whatever privilege sally and her children might have had, they all lived with the specter of the possibility that, that could happen for our complete american history schedule, go to c-span.org. museum of the american revolution, just blocks away from independence hall and the liberty bell in philadelphia, opened to the public on april 19. next the opening ceremony. , speakers include former vice president joe biden, pulitzer prize-winning historian david mccullough, and journalist cokie roberts. this is about an hour and 40 minutes. ♪

you have thomas jefferson, who formed that original democratic republican party, and then you have jackson, who many people within the party see as rejuvenating or revitalizing the old democratic party and making in the 1820's and 1830's. -- and making it more modern, in the 1820's and 1830's. host: representative tom cole of oklahoma in an interview had the following to say. collect>> we are chickasawans. my great-great-grandfather was forcibly removed from mississippi, and some of the last chickasaws to come out, so we were raised with a -- i used to tell people when i was five years old, i wasn't sure who andrew jackson was, but i knew he was a very bad man who had done evil things. so my grandmother literally wouldn't carry a $20 bill. host: what do you think? guest: that's a common refrain among native americans. several years ago when this book, "andrew jackson, southerner," came out, someone in the nearby city wrote me a letter, and the letter started out, you know, dear dr. cheathem, i see that you've written a book on andrew jackson. i want you to know that i think he was one mean

. >> than at 8:00, on the presidency, annette gordon reed on the relationship between thomas jefferson and the enslaved hemmings family. >> people were property that could be bought and sold. that was the thing that many of hemmingsmembers of the with thehey all lived specter of the possibility that to that could happen, because the law construed them as property. jefferson construed them as property. complete american history tv schedule, go to c-span.org. >> we are standing in front of the turtle bay exploration park and museum in redding, california. ♪ come inside as we look at an exhibit that shares the agricultural history of the region. i think it is really important for us to remember that agriculture is one of the backbones of california. even in far northern california, where it is mountainous and the terrain does not really lend itself to a lot of big ag. it does lend itself to pockets of ag in a community that is close to the land. julia: welcome to turtle bay exploration park's exploration home. you are in "rooted in this land," which is a temporary exhibition we have this

he too turned thomas jefferson. jefferson, a man of " enlightened" understanding had already improved in inferior race as beings even to the indians. the policy evident in jefferson's notes made the goal of emancipation a pernicious and fatal f -- fatal exercise and a direct threat to the nation's white population. should the nation in eradicate slavery and admit what people into white society, it would permanently alter the country's character for the worst and "stain the blood of the whites." a race war was an equally horrendous prospect according to smith. the inherent compatibility of black with white would lead to a bloody battle with the strongest party left to murder the weaker. in smith's estimation, externally imposed black freedom could never hold up in the face of nature's plan for those of african descent. africans and african americans indolent people. they would either start or plunder. even if emancipation was enacted throughout the country, smith said the two races would remain distinct. while the pet

thomas jefferson hit the ground, thomas jefferson and those who wrote the constitution, that says a lot about shakespeare. they thought about the situations where power is an object. something that someone can hold. at one point hamlet accuses his father of having grabbed at the crown and thrust it in his pocket. that is the image of tierney, the power possession and that someone can just take it. i think shakespeare was thinking of the divine right of kings and that something that we do not believe in. but he was very careful when he came to moments where people tried to give away power and he realized it's complicated. i want to turn the power over to you. i am so pleased that you came tonight to celebrate tonight. we are going to go to a reception of the great hall and keep talking. i thank you for coming tonight. [applause] [inaudible] [inaudible]

thomas jefferson, the whole idea that the accepted racial of church and state from -- the separationch and state means church leaders should not have a voice is a bastardization of what tom as jefferson believed. virginia was a colony and every citizen had to be a member of the anglican church. and the king appointed the archbishop of the church. the church used the money to buy all the land in virginia. after the revolution thomas jefferson put laws in place to keep the government from controlling the church. it was not to keep the church out of government affairs, it was to keep government from controlling religion. if the warren court the liberal early warren court some how made up some new doctrine of separation of church and state that did not come from our foirnlsd. jeef suls stawt we should be good citizens to participate in the public process and be charitable in our private lives and help those in need. judge jeanine: you are saying this is the opposite of what people are accusing this executive order of doing. the truth is, it is giving churches the protection of first amen

thomas jefferson, the whole idea that the accepted racial of church and state from -- the separation of church and state means church leaders should not have a voice is a bastardization of what tom as jefferson believed. virginia was a colony and every citizen had to be a member of the anglican church. and the king appointed the archbishop of the church. the church used the money to buy all the land in virginia. after the revolution thomas jefferson put laws in place to keep the government from controlling the church. it was not to keep the church out of government affairs, it was to keep government from controlling religion. if the warren court the liberal early warren court some how made up some new doctrine of separation of church and state that did not come from our foirnlsd. jeef suls stawt we should be good citizens to participate in the public process and be charitable in our private lives and help those in need. judge jeanine: you are saying this is the opposite of what people are accusing this executive order of doing. the truth is, it is giving churches the protection of fi

communicators monday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span2. >> the story and annette gordon reed talks about thomas jefferson and the enslaved hemmings family, who worked on his monticello, virginia, plantation. he -- she discusses sally hemming who she argues has six children by jefferson. the university of mary washington in fredericksburg, virginia, hosted this event, as part of their great lives lectures series. [applause] [clears throat] >> wow. it is perhaps appropriate that on thomas jefferson's birthday, we bring to you one of our most petite -- prestigious speakers. professor annette gordon reed is the one who definitively cracked the case, as our speaker on tuesday might have said, on one of american history's most complex and now expunged -- until now, expunged stories, which is the relationship between the jeffersons and the hemmings. professor gordon reed is the charles morin proor

determined to free people from having to -- he worked with his longtime friend, lifelong friend, thomas jefferson. they worked together in this cause. one of their proudest achievements is the virginia statute for religious freedom. if you then to monticello, you know it is one of the three accomplishments that jefferson put on the chap over his grave. jefferson was the author of the statute. he declared that either -- neither religious nor political leaders had any dominion over the faith of others. punishing people for their religious beliefs or declaring them unworthy of public office was depriving them of advantages to which they had a natural right. our civil rights, jefferson wrote, have no dutch attendant on our religious opinions, anymore than our opinions in physics or geometry. again, madison and jefferson were on the front tier of thought here. it has long been believed that there should be an established church. in the case of virginia -- and religious conformity had to be imposed. but madison and jefferson saw it differently. the statute failed to pass when they first tried to get it

thomas jefferson's famous separation. i've a lot of friends who say, we like vouchers in milwaukee in early years because of the we went to private, nonsectarian schools. but once they added the religious schools, nowhere in the constitution. we know it comes in and 1802 letter thomas jefferson wrote in connecticut. you have to be clear. her you for public money going to religious schools? another question is, should it go to schools that have had a division? this gets interesting because after the brown decision between 1954-1956, states began to pass nullification laws. they said there is no way in hell you're going to let the colored people come to school. congress members signed a manifesto saying the court can't tell us what to do. in the southern, private schools , even today have many roots in --t "indiscernible ] -- so if you [indiscernible] -- sometimes only add, people on the panels with policies are framing that question and we should take that to the families and children we went to serve. when i sat down with

i think it is not accidental that thomas jefferson kicked the ground when he visited stratford. thomas jefferson and those who wrote the constitution and developed a system of this in the country also thought a lot about shakespeare. they thought about the situations where power is just. it is something someone can hold. at one point hamlet accuses his father claudius of having grabbed the crown and thrusted in his pocket. that is the image of tyranny. the power and the position and that someone can just take it. i think shakespeare was thinking theologically about the kings and that is something we in the republic not believe in. but very careful when it came to a mom or people tried to give away power and he realized that it is complicated. i want to turn the power over to you. i'm so pleased that you came tonight to celebrate with us. we are now going to go out into a recession into the great hall and keep talking and i just want to thank you for coming tonight. [applause] [inaudible conversations] >> we are standing on the bridge here one of the main attractions during thous

> and at 8:00 on the presidency -- historian annette gordon reed on the relationship between thomas jefferson and the enslaved hemmings family. >> people as property who can be bought and sold and that was a thing that many members of the hemmings family despite whatever privilege that sally hemmings and her children might have had, they all lived with the specter or the possibility that that could happen because the law construed h construed them as property. >> for our american history tv schedule go to www.c-span.org. >>> scottish historian mile ferguson debated the future of geopolitics. they looked at nationalism around the world. it was part of the munk debate series. >> and i would argue that's a much better gamble for the future than to continue the current system, the current policies, the current bureaucracies, the current mess if washington. that's why i think we

historian annette gordon reed talks about thomas jefferson and the enslaved hemmings family, who lived and worked on his monticello, virginia, plantation. she discusses sally hemming who she argues had six children by jefferson. the university of mary washington in fredericksburg, virginia, hosted this event, as

we have thomas jefferson is ra meek, and we have james madison as dizzy.s called "the room where it happens." [applause] ♪ >> mr. secretary. >> mr. burr, sir. >> did you hear the news about good old general mercer? >> no. >> you know clermont street? >> yeah. >> they renamed it after him. the mercer legacy is secure. >> sure. >> and all he had to do was die. >> that's a lot less work. >> we ought to give it a try. >> ha. >> how you gonna get your debt plan through? >> i guess i'm gonna finally have to listen to you. >> really? >> ♪ talk less smile more do whatever it takes to get my plan on the congress floor ♪ ]\>> madison and jefferson are merciless. >> ♪ well, hate the sin, love the sinner ♪ >> hamilton! >> i'm sorry, burr, i've got to go. >> but -- >> decisions are happening over dinner. >> ♪ two virginians and an immigrant walk into a room ♪ >> ♪ diametrically opposed, foes ♪ >> ♪ they emerge with a compromise having opened doors that were ♪ >> ♪ previously closed >> ♪ bros >> the immigrant emerges with unprecedented financial power, a system he can s

ehrenberg got acquitted in, but not to any failure to thomas jefferson.cally, the president is the head of the executive badge and it cannot be committing obstruction of justice for committing his constitutional duty. if you tore up a subpoena or erased tapes or put out a perjured testimony, that's different. by exercising his causational rights, no obstruction of justice here. >> tucker: on what grounds with the acting attorney general would put mueller in that job? >> i think he did it to protect his own reputation. i think we are seeing a lot of people doing a lot of things to protect their own reputation. it starts with sally gates, refused to defend the travel order. it goes to comey who wanted to have his cake and eat it. he has the president and then he turns against him. we then see that -- he wants to preserve his reputation. he does what he wants the president to do, write a memo. now he's turning against him. we see a lot of that going on here today. reputation protecting, playing it both ways, wanting the president to like you but when things

students at thomas jefferson school for science and technology say they hope to launch it into orbit. >>> that sonic boom echoed through south florida. that came from an air force mini space shuttle. it was in orbit for 718 days. another small shuttle will be launched later. >> students launching floating around there. and we have a lot of space junk. >> it's almost like winter. >> that's a little bit of a stretch, eun. >> it's may, it should be 50 degrees. >> it's 30 something in some places. >> i will say i don't blame you. you can walk outside and say it's cold. some areas are in the 30s. we have a freeze warning and frost warning possibly tomorrow morning, too m. we're going to stay in a collar pattern. we are watching some rain. we could have rain in the first half of the week. we're in the 40s. 49 in the district. u this morning. look at frederick, 41. marti martinsburg, 46. quantico, 46. if you are exercising today, you might want the right jacket this morning. sunglasses through the morning with temperatures through 61 degrees by noon. 63 this afternoon. nice and dry across th

weird relationship with jefferson over the years, wrote a series of poems anonymously about thomas jefferson and sally hemings. when jefferson is retiring -- one to the tune of "yankee doodle," and other ones that aspired to be more classical. when jefferson is leaving office, he runs into quincy adams at the festivities for madison. he goes up to him and says, i just want to thank you for coming. i want to know, are you writing anymore poetry these days? john quincy adams puts this in his diary and writes -- he underlines poetry, because jefferson knows, even though it was anonymous, who did it, and this was his dig at him. john quincy got the message. carol: if it is any consolation, john quincy's wife had a lot of difficulty with him and with their children. one son was an opium addict who fathered an illegitimate child with the chambermaid, and the other confessed to his mother that he had prurient interests, so he went to prostitutes. annette: there is another story about louisa and sally hemings. jefferson invited native american chiefs to the white house. that had happened before, but