thomas jefferson had the good grace to essentially withdraw from public life.but in 1800, there's a rerun of that and that's where jefferson comes out as the winner in that election that only again after where it's necessary to modify the electoral college to indicate votes were for president and vice president have to be separately discerned. >> i want to read a paragraph in our book. the author of this was gordon wood, historian. i want to get your opinion on whether you agree with his take. he said he did not believe all men were created equal. he thought all men were created unequal. he did not believe in american exceptionalism. we americans are no better or no different than any other nations. we are just as vicious and corrupt. this is not the american dream. he took on every single dreamer missed that americans lived by. we couldn't live by adams message said gordon would, it would be too much to bear. jefferson said that we needed to hear because you can have a nation based on the notion that we are unequal from birth. adams didn't know about genetics

inscribed right here thomas jefferson and so you know we said this was your reaction when you find them one of the founding fathers had his own copy of the koran i was gobsmacked. as i would say. huge had it was international. i didn't have much appreciation for why it would be a big deal that a muslim of the elected to the united states congress i thought the issue was going to be color. and i thought wow we've really made some great strides in terms of racial justice when people don't care that i'm black anymore they're just they're just exudes or dark about religion but do you think keith that for all the grassroots activism in the muslim community that at a national level the fact is that most americans are still afraid of islam americans i think are subject to fear just like any people in the world but i think this is deeply rooted tolerance in people and we've been to a moment a civil rights movement we've been through all kinds of social change movements all marching the country toward a greater level of equality and i think people are just not ready to try to cut anybody out of

some americans were calling for the abolition of slavery one of these thomas jefferson proposed forming a colony in africa to take freed slaves but it wasn't until 863 after the civil war that slavery was finally abolished with it came the economic collapse of the southern states which depended on slaves the big plantations fell to ruin and $2000000.00 freed slaves headed for the northern cities. for those who stayed behind life remained brutal well into the 20th century lynching and murder where every day facts of life african-americans across the south. african-americans have been telling me that here in mississippi a place and i've always associated with prejudice they can now be muslim without prejudice and that this is an essential part of being a muslim in america the fight against prejudice and the struggle to be free and it was in pursuit of this struggle that in the early part of the 20th century millions of african-americans abandoned the south and they headed north which is where i'm going next. i'm catching the night train to chicago following in the footsteps of millions of

a big part of the legacy of thomas jefferson in the founding fathers is freedom of expression it means a lot to americans including american muslims one of the most radical ways you can indulge this freedom is on stage through comedy. i mean washington d.c. about to get a lesson in free speech at a comedy club show you the real nicholas berg generation pakistani muslim woman she just won an ignite one is in america ruby nicklaus won a national talent competition and became an overnight star my parents like when they came to this country they told everyone they were pakistani muslim immigrants so that i wouldn't have to grow up at the stigma being known as hawaiian. to me this is my mom that one nation of easter to me and my sister's 2 story. oh east the jesus christ will come back from the dead. and he will give all of the good days in the night. you know i mean. i make stitch. on the east the jesus christ will come out of the gate. and if he does not see his shadow. it will be 6 more weeks of children i. think that you're going to redeem. you in the. end there's always a mixed bag of

thomas jefferson, great example. i'm assuming all of this is tru true.it change how we view martin luther king andn his role in american history, should we knock his statues down, i don't think we should. >> i think you would be making a mistake to make the assumption that this is true. all of his articles, you he tro write this for many publications, including "the washington post," they all rejected it because the evidence wasn't solid. mainly because the fact that he hadn't heard the fbi tapes, he didn't have access to them. he was going off fbi memos and these were memos from cointel pro. >> tucker: i respect martin luther king and i don't want to think these things are true. but we often learn that people we revere for their role ine history were deeply flawed death. and there is actual evidence that he was deeply flawed, he was a philanderer, we can say that. >> i think having extramarital affairs is very different from watching someone -- >> tucker: i agree with that completely. but i'm just saying should we define, should we define a man's life b

a big part of the legacy of thomas jefferson in the founding fathers is freedom of expression it means a lot to americans including american muslims one of the most radical ways you can indulge this freedom is on stage through comedy. i mean washington d.c. about to get a lesson in free speech at a comedy club show you the real nicholas 1st generation pakistani muslim woman she just won the good night 20 years my in america nicholas won a national talent competition and became an overnight star my parents lied when they came to this country they told everyone they were pakistani muslim immigrants so that i wouldn't have to grow up with the stigma of being known as hawaii and. this is my mom's explanation of easter to me and my sister's 2 story give. east the jesus christ will come back from the dead. and he will give all of the good you know is in the night. but you know i make damn sure that. i mixed it. on the east the jesus christ will come out of the cave. and if he does not see his shadow was. good will be 6 more weeks of chile i. think that you're getting ready to go. and there's

so, when your kids get to high school, they will learn the most important thing about thomas jeffersonay have fathered a child with sally helpings. they say he did. don't actually know that. >> pretty sure. >> tucker: maybe. hard to know hundreds of years later. okay. they will say that but they will kind of leave out the fact that he crated the united states. should your kids also learn that the most important thing about martin luther king is that he had a weird personal life? i don't think they should. >> no. >> tucker: that's vandalism, isn't it? >> i 100 percent agree that we need to learn everything about even if we are talking about thomas jefferson some of the good things that he did in creating our republic and some of the bad things. the thing is we can't leave out the things that he did wrong and i think, you know, one of the things that we need to understand is who our founders were. and some of the ideals. and that way we can create a more perfect union. i certainly believe that we should learn about the good things and also not leave out the bad things. political figures

alexander hamilton, the treasury secretary, and thomas jefferson, the secretary of state, work out , bargain with james madison and they essentially say, look, all the southern states will .gree to support assumption that deal is struck in 1790. you have as a result, the president's and it is agreed that the federal capitol will be somewhere between northern maryland and the confluence of the anacostia in the potomac river, along the potomac. as washington is allowed to choose the site and he chooses the present location. again, slavery, why do you think that had an impact on the location? prof. musgrove: the southern interests angling for potomac capitol want to make sure that -- that slavery is protected. there are particularly interested because the capitol in benin said -- philadelphia -- had been in philadelphia for a large portion of the continental congress and philadelphia was becoming hostile because of the large quicker population turning against the institution. >> and so, it became what is .nown now as washington, d c. for the slave: owners who owned property in the capit

will give a few remarks before you're able to pick up your copy of the in persons report in the thomas jefferson room so without further ado let me stateuce secretary of mike pompeo. [applause] >> good morning, everyone. welcome. to welcome all of the human trafficking survivors in attendance here today. all heroes. this is a very special morning. you are all standing up to ensure that no one else suffers the abuse that you endured and we are proud of your commitment minute byed every your courage. advisor to thenk president ivanka trump for withnuing to speak out absolute moral clarity on the issue of human trafficking. she calls it what it is. from both parties if there was ever an issue that was transacts the politics of the moment, human trafficking is most certainly it. that's also clear from the attendance today of all the living former heads of the state department's trafficking in office from the past two administrations. thank you all for being here and welcome. and finally, we're glad to see ambassadors and representatives from around the world who have here today. human trafficking is

alexander hamilton, treasury secretary at the time, and thomas jefferson, secretary of state, work out a bargain with james madison and they say, all the southern states will agree to support assumption. making sure that the federal government pays all these debts from the revolutionary war, if the federal capital is placed on the potomac river. that deal is struck in 1790. you have, as a result, the residence act. it is agreed the federal capital will be somewhere between northern maryland and the confluence of the anacostia and potomac rivers. george washington is allowed to choose the site. he chooses the present location. >> why did slavery have an impact on the location? prof. musgrove: the southern interests who are angling for a potomac capital wants to make sure the capital is in the slave south. that slavery is protected in the national capital. they are particularly interested in that because the capital had been in philadelphia for a long time before the continental congress. philadelphia was becoming increasingly hostile to slavery because there is a large quaker population

>> i'm fred. 18-year-old senior from thomas jefferson and would like to thank our coachebe >> hi. >> hey. i'm ben. i'm an 18-year-old senior at jefferson and would like to thank our assistant principal mr. frank for being here supporting us today. >> wonderful. he has cool glasses. by the way. williams? >> hi. i'm william. a 16-year-d junior at thomas jefferson and would like to thank teammates for support. >> gentlemen, 20 points. nothing for an incorrect answer. data hit is key. study tis data and see f you can find in this phrase the name of what polynesian isld whose capital is -- >> tahiti. >> yes. >> part of the alphabet and a pistol. wh same word would satisfy both of these definitions? >> tter. >> yeah. in romeo and jewuliet events sp out of control after what witty character is killed -- that's it. crimea, melee. which of these peninsulas extends into the black sea? yes. a frog thinks its puddle is a great sea. you'd have to cross theea to visit the source of this proverb. what stheast asian country also known at burma? >> myanmar. >> that's it. nice job. tj, 240 points. [ a

if the stores are to be believed, he had read the collected works of karl marx as well as thomas jefferson by the time he was about 11. certainly he had read all of jameson were cooper and no doubt there was a certain genius in this very unusual man in plymouth. he ended up going to michigan state. afterwards, he served in the military for about five years during world war ii. when he came back from his military experience, he ended up getting his graduate degree at a scottish university, the university of st. andrews, earned that in 1952, came back in 1953. strangely enough, his dissertation became this million-copy bestseller, this book called "the conservative timing was just right. it hit the market from a chicago publisher, ended up going through seven editions over its lifetime, and it really did give -- there were a number of disparate voices that i would say were not leftist. they might be conservative to some degree, libertarian to another degree, but there were a number of voices that i think his book allowed some kind of forum for all of these voices to be able to speak right at

which of these is not one of the three general categories thomas jefferson used to divide the books iny at monticello? >> i love this $500 question, because it's considerably easier than the one that i had last time. i know the answer--because it's very silly--is d, naughty limericks. final answer. [laughter] >> i've missed you, eugene. >> i missed you too. >> missed you a lot. that's right. >> yes! $500! [applause] >> $1,000 question. according to the "farmer's almanac," what is the best way to keep small, delicate holiday ornaments safe and organized during the off-season? >> we did this recently, although it was many months after the holiday season. the answer is a, put them in an egg carton, although we did do d, but i'm gonna say a. final answer, chris. [laughter] >> eugene, we have 13 of these we have to get through. >> oh... >> yeah. >> i'll pace myself. >> you got it right. >> whoo! >> and now we only have 12 more. $2,000 question up next. >> $2,000, yeah. >> what vegetable that's also sold by the head did mark twain once call "nothing but cabbage with a college education?"

it dates back to -- thomas jefferson you stop about "evil about," and the feel urban voters, they do not really mentality inthe the countryside that really counts. but that becomes a template to divide america into racial, ethnic, and social and cultural different groups. not usedknow, that is to necessarily have a partisan lott, because there were a of rural democrats, a lot of urban republicans, but increasingly, as america divides into a red and blue eyed a situation, >> are we talking new york state versus say iowa? when you say rural versus urban, what exactly are we talking about? >> that's a good question. you really are talking new york state versus new york city as much as the a rural dominated state iowa versus new york. in state elections for instance, that has an effect, what does the upstate vote think. it stems from state divisions as much as divisions between the states. in the 1960s the rural voter power in state elections -- that wasn't outlawed by the supreme court until 1964 or so. that deep division remains in a lot of state legislatures. >> you brought it up and

as the 17th seventy's some americans were calling for the abolition of slavery one of these thomas jefferson proposed forming a colony in africa to take freed slaves but it wasn't until 863 after the civil war that slavery was finally abolished with it came the economic collapse of the southern states which depended on slaves the big plantations fell to ruin and $2000000.00 freed slaves headed for the northern cities. for those who stayed behind life remained brutal well into the 20th century lynching and murder where every day facts of life african-americans across the south african americans have been telling me that here in mississippi a place i've always associated with prejudice they can now be muslim without prejudice and that this is an essential part of being a muslim in america the fight against prejudice and the struggle to be free and it was in pursuit of this struggle that in the early part of the 20th century millions of african-americans abandoned the south and they headed north which is where i'm going next. i'm catching the night train to chicago following in the footsteps of

thomas jefferson repeatedly gave this advice on matters of style swim with current, on matters of principle, stand like a rock. the challenge is to distinguish between principal and style, between the things that matter most and the things that matter least. , contentiousmessy democracy and a democracy is built on compromise. the constitution was a product of compromise. every law reflects compromise. every relationship involves compromise. asrecognize abraham lincoln one of america's most principled leaders. he never compromised on matters of principle. that gaves a lawyer this advice to his fellows. persuade your neighbors to compromise whenever you can. point out to them that the domino winner is often the real loser. as a peacemaker, the lawyer has a superior opportunity to be a good person. you need to be prepared to compromise when you can do so without violating your principles. of course you will face pressure to compromise on things that matter most. perhaps even to trade virtue for the appearance of virtue, but you should exercise caution when circumstances tempt you to disregard

yet, i'm also descended from slaves who worked on thomas jefferson's plantation. it al gaits reparations to me but not to an american with the wrong ancestry, even if they're working multiple jobs to support a family. you might call that justice. i call it justice for the dead at the price of justice for the living. i understand that reparations are about what people are owed regardless of how well they're doing. i understand that. but the people who are owed for slavery are no longer here. and we're not entitled to collect on their debts. reparations by definition are only given to victims. so the moment you give me reparations, you've made me into a victim without my consent. not just that. you've made one-third of black americans who poll against reparations into victims without their consent. and black americans have fought too long for the right to define themselves to be spoken for in such a condescending manner. the question is not what america owes me by virtue of my ancestry. the question is what all americans owe each other by virtue of being citizens of

i'm a millennial, i can quote ronald reagan and say thomas jefferson told him, it is not your age, itidate in your age range that shows values, reflects what we care about and not jokingly marijuana, it is economic issues, environmental issues. >> marijuana. >> got to marijuana quickly. >> i knew it was going to happen. >> i'm right. >> he was not a kid when he was running. >> it's true, he made that point about he knew thomas jefferson. millennials are the most diverse group of people in america and we need to be reflected by that kind of candidate. >> that clip reminded me of reagan. i won't let my partner's age and youth and inexperience against them. >> age values. age, i'm not sure it makes a big deal. look at 2016, more millennials voted for bernie sanders than trump and hillary combined. >> you read my mind. the other day we had two combined that was like 300 years old, yet i don't obsess over ratings, but young people -- >> you would think in 2008, they made a big issue about john mccain's age and obama's age, the older generation being squares, you would think younger people

that if thomas jefferson matters, so does sally hemmings. that if d-day matters, so does black wall street. that if valley forge matters, so does fort pillow. because the question really is not whether we will be tied to the something's of our past, but whether we are courageous enough to be tied to the whole of them. thank you. amy: that was award-winning author ta-nehisi coates, a leadoff witness before the house judiciary committee on wednesday. is several 2014 as they helped spur new calls to make amends for slavery. when we come back, he joins us for the rest of the hour. ♪ [music break] amy: joy harjo, the first native american poet laureate. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with nermeen shaikh. as we continue to talk about the call for slavery reparations, we spend the rest of the hour with ta-nehisi coates, who testified at wednesday's hearing. he is the author of several books including, "we were eight years in power: an american tragedy." he is also the author of "between the world

i just graduated from thomas jefferson university. weren't realized he credits psa with setting him on a different road to success. >> you can play basketball and be smart. long as you put the work on and you're focused you can be whatever you want to be. >> when you lift these two boys up as examples to young boys and girls coming in the program, which is the star of those two? >> they're both the star. >> that's our job-s to ma, is t sure they see you don't only have one dream. with young black boys a lot of times we're taught that things can be very singular. right? and that there's certain paths that you can go down. >> reporter: psa has sent 62 student athletes to college since 2009, and awarding over $13 million in scholarships every year. >> now we finally have, what, 20 guys graduate college with either a bachelor's degree or master's degree in the last two years. >> our numbers are a little bit fudged because the guys who don't graduate are going into the nba, they're leaving as freshmen or sophomores or juniors. >> so they'r

thomas jefferson determined that it was necessary to get the approval of congress before he deployed marines to the shores of tripoli, our first nondeclared war, our first intervention in the middle east, and a precedent that should have been followed by subsequent presidents. but in fact, since the days of jefferson, on many occasions presidents just sent our troops in without seeking authority from congress. that is why in 1973, in the wake of the vietnam war, this congress passed the war powers act, also known as the war powers resolution. it provides that the president cannot deploy for more than 60 days or 90 days without an authorization to use military force. now that act of 1973 is not everything it should be. because it did not encompass the idea of bombing without deploying troops for periods of 60 or 90 days. , it is inear, perhaps need of revision, perhaps, but it is the only legal restraint on a president committing to us war without any approval from this congress. but every attorney general since the 1970's has advised presidents that the war powers act isn't actually

indeed, your own thomas jefferson believed that william and mary was the finest school of manners and morals that ever existed in america. as graduates, as graduates you are charged with upholding this legacy of honesty and integrity. today you become the standard-bearers. turning to the importance of public service, or service over self, i can say that i did not really choose public service, rather i more or less fell into it early on, perhaps not fully appreciating the challenges of such service. one can come to understand the importance of service over self in a myriad of ways through volunteerism, through commitment to a particular cause, or perhaps by example. as an undergraduate i had one of the finest role models i could have asked for in an upper classman by the name of david hackett. he was on our 1965 lacrosse team. he was not necessarily the best on the team, but he was a determined and a natural leader. he graduated later that spring and a year later as we were graduating, we saw princeton face the decision of how to respond to the war in vietnam. we knew that david was in

agricultural sector farmers have long been upheld as almost sacred in americana from the writings of thomas jefferson idealizing the yeoman to the iconic speech of paul harvey delivered in 1978 and on the age they looked down on as planned paradise and said i need a caretaker so god made a farmer god sent i need somebody with me to get up before dawn milk cows work all make in the fields milk cows again eat supper then go to town and stay past midnight at a meeting of the school board so god made a farmer now you would think that farmers would be a central focus of drums promise to make america great again after all it was the agricultural states like iowa wisconsin and minnesota where trump won big however at this point as the trade war with china continues farmers aren't winning they're hurting bad. farmer. trade war i think they are one of the casualties they are the trade disruption yes but trump says the farmers should just take it after all it's for their own good in the long term we were going to help out a farmers we will ensure that our farmers get the relief they need and very very quickly.

thomas jefferson who was born in england penned a key sections of the declaration of independence he became one of the founding fathers of the united states along with benjamin franklin samuel adams and a tobacco farmer from virginia called george washington. they were united in their determination to be free of what they called british tyranny. their declaration also proclaimed that all men had a god given right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. it was a call to rebellion but were the colonies willing to die for their cause. they had $15000.00 poorly equipped militia troops under the command of a military novice plantation owner george washington. they faced the well equipped and battle hardened british redcoats backed up by 30000 mercenaries from germany. but george washington had patriotic fervor and tactical skill on his side he managed to avoid open battle against the enemy's superior forces his militia was more accustomed to retreating than going on the offensive but the british were unable to press their advantage. then george washington received military assistanc

there was a big movement that came after the election of thomas jefferson the jeffersonians we will call it because they didn't really have a party name but the jeffersonians here decided they were going to get rid of this rule there was going to be no slavery and introduce this into ohio. two people in the legislature were leading the fight with the charge to stop that to keep it from turning into a slave state. one was general rufus putnam who was the leader of the group along with cutler. the other was ethan cutler himself who is young at this. he is absolutely devoted to stopping this change and he gets quite ill. he could hardly get out of bed there was even some question whether he would survive. the day that the vote was going to take place, rufus putnam came into the room to a boardinghouse room nearby and he was old enough to have been his father they came in and said cutler, you must get well, be in your place, or you will lose your favorite measure. according to one account putnam and another man carried the convention on a stretcher but there is no reliable evidence of this c

it dates back to -- thomas jefferson you stop about "evil about," and the feel urban voters, they do not really mentality inthe the countryside that really counts. but that becomes a template to divide america into racial, ethnic, and social and cultural different groups. not usedknow, that is to necessarily have a partisan lott, because there were a of rural democrats, a lot of urban republicans, but increasingly, as america divides into a red and blue eyed a theation, that slips onto rural/urban divide, too, so you whata deep gap between rural area voters want and what urban area voters want. host: when you are talking about rural, are we talking upstate new york versus new york city, or are we talking new york state versus iowa? when we say rural versus urban, what exactly are we talking about? guest: that is a good question. you really are talking new york state versus new york city as much as the different states, a rural-dominated state, like iowa, versus new york. in state elections, for instance, that has an effect. what do they think? ofmany ways, the sort partisan gerrymand