he actually had to fight a battle against his opponent who was thomas jefferson. now, these two had been friends obviously they wrote the declaration of independence together but now opposite sides of the fence, they don't even want to talk to each other so the election is very ugly, nasty, close, it's sort of for us today a normal presidential election. john adams wins by three electoral votes so slightly more than half. we have never had a president who got only half the votes, we have never had a president who had to really fight for an election and of course the other problem in the early days is if you come in second you are vice president which means the new president is one party, the new vice president is the other party, just pick any modern election you like put the two opponents together for four years as the executive and you can see how neither of them would be particularly happy. so john adams and thomas jefferson are not happy to be standing up in the front of the room together. this is a full house that day, the balcony, the seats, you've got most

thomas jefferson and sally hemmings. the second in zero eight, the hemmings' of monticello, the national book award andaw pulitr prize for that book and her most recent, along with author, peter, is most blessed of the patriarch. why did jefferson refer to himself as most blessed of the patriarch? >> guest: he was comparing himself to the patriarchs. he had a farm and he had enslaved people in power. he had all these kind of things. he was the patriarch of this particular area and he saw himself that way. of course we look at that like what? so that's why i insisted we put that" and the books because we didn't want people to think we were calling him that, but it was his identity. now we look at this as negative and that is why i didn't want to be associated with calling him that, but he saw himself as a person who had responsibilities. that is what he said. we look at the slaveholder and all those things. he saw it as here are the people i'm responsible for that i'm i supposed to take care of and that was his image of h

say hello thomas jefferson. hello, thomas, jefferson and between you'll find and between. oh, we've come here. why do we move you around you were right the first time catherine you write the first time the conversation between thomas jefferson and john adams and if i believe if i'm remembering correctly the conversation began like this. will you write? i will not. you should write it. oh, no. well, why not? you ought to do it. i will not. why? reasons enough what can be your reasons reason one? you are a virginian. and a virginian opt to appear at the head of this business. reason to i am obnoxious. suspect and unpopular you are very much. otherwise. reason three you can write. 10 times better than i can. well if you were decided. i will do as well as i can. very well. when you have drawn it up, we will have a meeting. thank you. that took 30 minutes of rehearsal before before we got started. i want to thank chuck and katherine who had just fabulous. the rehearsal was for technical reasons. yeah. now that's the

say a i good work for thomas jefferson. you said but, after all, what does he added. akhil: let me begin by saying is #20 jefferson and skeptical of hamilton but you and others change my ideas about hamilton. but is much as anybody, change my idea aboutng hamilton. instead my idea about hamilton and jefferson is going to be correspondence pretty but if you'd asked me at age 20, went to college together. i would say then if i was lucky enough to have a son i would name him jefferson. so good work. especially the younger jefferson. in such an idealism in terms of the world of the could be better. he is the architect about become a northwest ordinance that proposes insulate to ended slavery not just northwest but all western territory. any dreams of an america that is open to talent. is going to help smart kids that are not supported privilege to be able to rise because of their native ability and academic o aptitude. he inspires ordinary people with his belief in ordinary people. and for all of his impressive attributes, does

washington, george washington carver, thomas jefferson. and i read a jefferson biography during that year, during my third grade year. and the book was supposed to be like a biography of hum, but it was something -- of him, but it was something that was told by a fictional slave boy, enslaved boy who was jefferson's companion. and the book bothered me because it portrayed the. en slaved boy as sort of -- enslaved boy as sort of silly and not wanting to learn, you know, sort of exasperated with jefferson because jefferson wanted to read and to go to school. he enjoyed those things. and i knew at the same time that as a black person that my classmates and the intent of the author was to sort of send a message, i thought, about black people. and at the same time that we were sending a message about jefferson, about his intelligence and curiosity. and if i thought of myself as intelligence and curious, and i wanted to learn how to read, i loved reading, and i couldn't see why the enslaved boy had to be portrayed that way. that was my introducti

>> guest: my first book came out in 1997 about thomas jefferson and sally hemming. was about historian profession. and the weight certain people were writing about jefferson primarily handled this particular story that was my real interest i was not interested proving this one way or another but one thing i did know was that historians had been treating the recollection of other people in an unfair way. that is what my first book was really about. came out in 1998 cooperated what i was saying so that led to general acceptance of the story. and then most people would want tong talk about other things, about the gender aspects of it, other acts of slavery at monticello and the changes taking place at that site and the handling of talking about a slavery. so people reach out to other kinds of things. but something i said before, people talk about history this is a provision of history. but all historians, good historians are revising things further not towing the same story over and over again like you read to your kids at night and if you skip a line is like no way to

host: thomas jefferson and sally hemmings. the second 2008 hemmings is a monticello winning those are national book award anden pulitzer prize in the most recent is most blessed of the patriarch. why did a jefferson refer to him as most blessed of the patriarch quick. >> he was the patriarch of old and enslaved people and he had power and the patriarch of this particular area. ands, of course we look at that and say what? that's why i insisted we put that in quotations we didn't want people thinking we called him that but that was his identity. we look at this is negative that's i don't want to be associated calling him that that he saw himself as a person who had responsibilities. that is what he meant we look at the slaveholder and the fatherth who had control and think this was a bit much but he saw it has all the people i am responsible for i am supposed to take care of. that was the image of himself. he says a couple of times so it meant something to him in the book is trying to figure out what that was and what it was tha

host: in her books, annette gordon-reed has written three about thomas jefferson the first in 1997, thomas jefferson and sally hemmings. second 2008 the hemmings of monticello winning the pulitzer prize in national book award and her most recent, along with peter honest is most blessed of the patriarch. why did jefferson refer to himself as the most blessed of the patriarch? >> he would compare himself to the patriarchs of old. he had a farm and enslaved people and power. he was the patriarch of this area and he saw himself that way and of course we look at that and say what? that's why i i insisted we put that in quotation on the book we don't want people thinking we call him that we look at this as negative. that's why didn't want to be associated calling him not that he sells himself as a person who had responsibility and that is what he meant we look at the slaveholder and the father who has control over the daughters and think this is much but he sees it as hear all the people i am responsible for that i am supposed to take care of. so we thought by fixating on that phrase he called h

back which took courage but not a lot of courage, what courage would have been to do is what thomas jefferson did, we're taking the votes he could have done that too but would have been politically unacceptable but sending it back to the legislature who now know that bad things i could show you letters from the different states we're talking about. had he done that i think it would have been a great thing for our country. i think it would have been a great thing for our current.

thomas jefferson is writing the declaration of independence. he is talking about the equality of all men, but he is holding people enslaved. it's the hypocrisy. did they really mean what they were saying? i don't think it's possible to separate the man or the woman from their personal actions and what they are doing for the country. host: the declaration of independence signed on this day in 1776. the words written by thomas jefferson. among these are life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. doug brinkley? caller: guest: it was like the press release. think about how the original one had two names on it. john hancock and draws thompson. -- charles thompson. a whole new country is being created, the united states. the british laughed at it and said we want to arrest hancock and thompson for treason and hang them. the 13 colonies pulled together and the american revolution gave us our first president. the one thing everybody agreed on is george washington did such an amazing job winning the war that the combination of the battle at yorktown, he

franklin donor roosevelt, was interested in creating a monument to thomas jefferson. and talk about using the title basin for that memorial. putting the process through design and construction, the memorial was dedicated 1943, and construction had to continue through world war ii. the jefferson memorial, was not without controversy in terms of its location. the construction of the memorial, would require the removal of a number of cherry trees. despite the protest, known as the cherry tree rebellion, a number of women editor of the washington times herald, went down to the tidal basin one day, and chained themselves to the cherry trees, walking construction vehicles from coming in and removing the trees. they ultimately receive the concession, that any tree removed, would be replanted along the title basin. for more than 100 years, the cherry trees have been a beloved institution in washington d.c.. symbolizing the friendship between the people of united states and the people of japan. in the wake of the attack on pearl harbor, 1941, the love of the cherry trees was pu

thomas jefferson, was a lifelong gardener, and it's romantic at least meet, think of him outside the white house, travel in hand, and toiling the soil. jefferson had to content himself to set the stage for his successors. one thing we know he did do, was places order for trees and shrubs shrubs, that arrived after james madison became president. 51 types of plants are on this list, including oak, elm, ash, beach trees. we know that these trees were planted, because one of his assistants wrote to him in 1809, sir if you are now the white house you would scarcely know it. the grounds have become a wilderness, of shrubbery entries. not exactly a wilderness of shrubbery and trees, but do any of these early trees or shrubs still survive today? it is possible. there is one large oak on the south grounds, that might be oldest in the mansion itself. but it's not very likely that most of these early planting survived. that's because the british burned the white house during the war of 1812. live leaving only the walls standing. so the best images this painting, which shows utter devastation. m

thousands of people visit the washington dc tidal basin to see the cherry blossoms memorials to thomas jefferson franklin d roosevelt and martin luther king jr. stand on its banks the tidal basin started as an engineering project but is also served as a swimming hole a protest ground and the scene of a political scandal. mike litterst national mall and memorial parks communications chief met us on site to talk about the area's history and famous japanese cherry trees. we are at the end of the tidal basin in washington dc home to the world famous cherry trees which blossom every spring well known to washingtonians people across the country and in fact people across the world, but had you been here before about 1890 or so, we would be in the middle of the potomac river this area has evolved over the years. there's always been an element of recreation around the tidal basin but with the passing of time recreation has become much more important than it initially was now as early as 1890 there was an established swimming area around what we know today is the tidal basin with the planting of the cherr

thomas jefferson, they were all busy with other committee assignments. it made sense for just one of them to take the lead. drafting the document they have been tasked to prepare. a supporter of independence by this time might seem to us like the obvious choice to be the lead drafts man. but he was also plagued by gout and exhausted. robert livingstone was on the committee as a token conservative. he had been urging reconciliation, patching things off, not independence, and he there was to make sure things didn't get too crazy and run out of hand. roger sherman, too, the guy in the middle, was largely window dressing. he was a good man, described as honest as an angel. that left john adams, the tall sandy haired planter who had a reputation as a writer, but who had barely said a word. and they argued about which one of them should not do the work. and who the other person should be that is drafting. we're going to do theater live on cspan. two randomly selected volunteers, chuck and katherine, can you come up, please? [ applause ] adams later wrote a rec

notes from virginia, thomas jefferson in 1789, cotton is the idea that a state of war always existed etween master and slave. jefferson belief in the possible quote extermination of the one race or the other, reflected the views that large number -- a dangerous threat of those masters in white generally. echoing these fears, william byrd the third, one of the largest slave owners in virginia wrote the public danger that so many of these represented. and the future president james madison said quote there would soon be at war with whites if near, end quote. jefferson and other slaves believe that they would always have the possibility of a war between the races. they understood that sleeves, just like white men, would always try to fire free themselves. these ideas of being at war with one another were not a new. but rather the same ideas that were generated by the very first settlers throughout the british colonies about the enslaved population. these tensions were rarefied during and after the haitian revolution. the colonists were afraid according to lieutenant governor william bold

franklin was an advocate several virginia founding fathers were as well including thomas jefferson traveled to philadelphia as a young man in 1766 to get inoculated by variolation. george washington he was a smallpox survivor he had caught smallpox at age 19 while he was traveling in barbados. he recognized the strategic value of variolation pretty keenly during the revolutionary war after the american forces were soundly defeated during an attack on quebec and a large reason for their defeat was that so many soldiers had been either killed or laid out by smallpox. recognizing that problem george washington declared in 1777 that all soldiers in the continental army should be inoculated by variolation. now the relation was a very controversial practice pretty much from the beginning and both europe and america and you see pro and anti-verulation factions develop because variolation involved infecting. a healthy patient with smallpox people who were opposed to variolation were afraid that that patient would die from smallpox. they were also afraid that the person who was infected the person w

thomas jefferson said, i like to dream of the future, better than the history of the past. america and liberty in prospective two or 300 millions of freeman without one noble one came among them. you say it, it is impossible, and i should agree with you on this, i would still say let us try the experiment regularly and, that each government continue. thank you. [applause] [applause] [inaudible]. [inaudible]. [inaudible]. [applause] [inaudible]. ♪ ♪♪ ♪ ♪♪ ♪ ♪♪ [inaudible]. [inaudible]. [inaudible]. [inaudible]. [inaudible]. [inaudible]. [inaudible]. [inaudible]. [inaudible]. the hellenic history centers human research center. >> i was born in north carolina as i mentioned and probably one of the more significant formative events in my life was when i was nine years old, my mother died suddenly of a cerebral hemorrhage and went to bed on a sunday night and woke up monday morning and she was

i'd rather have a corrupt media that a corrupt government, john paraphrasing, thomas jefferson. but after that, most politicians have blamed the media when it didn't go their way of a could. spiro agnew in richard nixon. you won't have nixon to kick around anymore . we just tend to think that the now is, is like no other time before it's difficult running a democracy and it's difficult having a 1st amendment. everybody's for the 1st amendment, if it's protecting something they agree with. but a were very quick to make exceptions, you know, yelling fire in a crowded rooms takes in a lot more than fire these days. so i see this again as a transitional period. i don't, i don't see us going to hell in a handbasket at all. i think that we're just learning how to be mature as a society that is democratic, but does have a lot of conflicting points of view, which is to be expected in a country. a number grants in a country of freedom and a country that is open to discussion about various points of view. donald trump just exaggerated everything by the, the sheer largeness of his personal

thomas jefferson is writing the declaration of independence. talking about the equality of all men, but he is holding people enslaved. it's the hypocrisy. did they really mean what they were saying? i don't think it's possible to separate the man or the woman from their personal actions and what they are doing for the country. host: the declaration of independence signed on this day in 1776. the words written by thomas jefferson. among these are life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. doug brinkley? caller: guest: it was like the press release. think about how the original one had two names on it. john hancock and draws thompson. -- charles thompson. a whole new country is being created, the united states. the british laughed at it and said we want to arrest hancock and thompson for treason and hang them. the 13 colonies pulled together and the american revolution gave us our first president. the one thing everybody agreed on is george washington did such an amazing job winning the war that the combination of the battle at yorktown, he becam

i think benjamin banniger has it right to his letter to thomas jefferson in 1791 where he quote recommends to jefferson and all others to wean yourself franchise those narrow prejudices which you have imbibed. end quote, and their addiction to ill-gotten power and money because beganiger argued quotes it is the indispensable duty of those who maintain for themselves the rights of human nature and who process the obligations of christianity to extend their power and influence to the relief of every part of the human race, from whatever burden or oppression they may unjustly labor under. end quote. indeed, as absalon johns the firstior daned african-american episcopal priest in philadelphia put it, quote n the constitution and fugitive bill no mention is made of black people or slaves. therefore, if the bill of rights or the declaration of congress are of any validity, we beseech that as we are men we may be admitted to partake of the liberties and inalienable rights therein held forth, firmly believing that the extending of justice and equality to all classes would be a means of drawing dow

susan: thomas jefferson, a well-known lover of books. famous quote, "i cannot live without books" is on coffee mugs and pillows and everywhere. he ended up selling his collection of books to create the library of congress. how many books did he own? craig: between 6000 and 7000. then he started building another collection. he had a couple thousand more when he passed. susan: you credited him with the first campaign book. craig: it is called "notes on the state of virginia.” it was not a campaign book like abraham lincoln's. with candidates specifically pulling together a book. the story started a little earlier for jefferson. he worked on that book in the 1780's. it came out more than a decade before he ran for president. it was essential, it was a huge flashpoint during the elections of 1776 and 1800. this is when thomas jefferson and john adams are running against each other. there were other candidates as well. to understand why "notes on the state of virginia" was so important, we have to talk about how campaigning worked in that tim

thomas jefferson said, i like to dream of the future, better than the history of the past. liberty in prospective two or 300 millions of freeman without one noble one came among them. you say it, it is impossible, and i should agree with you on this, i would still say let us try the experiment regularly and, that each government continue. thank you. [applause] [applause] [inaudible]. [inaudible]. [inaudible]. [applause] [inaudible]. ♪ ♪♪ ♪ ♪♪ ♪ ♪♪ [inaudible]. [inaudible]. [inaudible]. [inaudible]. [inaudible]. [inaudible]. [inaudible]. [inaudible]. [inaudible]. [inaudible]. 's weekdays on c-span to our intellectual, every sunday, you find events unexplored nations past on american history to be on sunday, book tv brings you the latest nonfiction books and authors, it is television for serious readers. learn discover explore weekends on "c-span2". ♪ ♪♪ weekend this on "c-span2" are an intellectual, every saturday, american history tv has american stories on sundays, book tv gives you the latest nonfiction books and authors. "c-span2" funding comes from these television comp

like i mean, to me i will never ever, ever consider thomas jefferson in the same way. i can say you at some very cool ideas that you took from let's say russo and locke. you spun it, took ownership of it. not going to forget you took some ideas from some white guys injured as well, and you are able to justify your bad behavior and somehow white americans today are thinking that he's a good guy. i want to know like how far you can go back that this is really important for me because i want to talk with you being an artist. artist. there's a wonderful paragraph here on page 26. see, i am going backwards. when you start with don and grace. donna and grace of the women that clint meets when he goes to monticello. that paragraph, that first paragraph if you could read that for us on page 26. >> donna and grace and so many people, specifically white people, have often understood slavery and those held in its grip only in abstract terms. they do not see the faces. they cannot picture the hands. they do not hear the fear or the laughter. they do not consider that these were ch

it is widely believed thomas jefferson was the primary author of our declaration of independences, one of the founding fathers that i enjoyed reading was james madison who put a touch of realism into this aspiration known as american, said if men were angels, no government would be necessary. july 4 is the ideal time to note the difference between what we aspire to be. and the realities of where we are. the declaration of independence was the ideal, constitution was to turn the ideal into a government. and i do reflect on what could have been had we taken the madge majesty of the clause, all men are created equal and fully turned it into our governing document. america acknowledged two things. number one, we are in a perpetual search for a more perfect union. number two, while truth does not change, our constitution could and should and would be be atobetter reflect that truthe highest goal. the highest aspiration and when you set truth as your ideal, and seek a perfect union, you will often times find both out of reach. but that is the beauty and uniqueness of america. we set a goal t

so is it possible for us to believe that george washington, thomas jefferson were monsters? >> right? is a possible you could be a beautiful thinker and have amazing architectural taste and vehicle ormonde and to be a monster? >> it's interesting even that formulation assassin because i'm almost less interested and greg sync your asked me to accept my great, great grandfather was a monster. i'm like, i'm not interested in the inferiority of their grandfathers spirit or life what's in his heart. it's much less interesting or relevant to me if you think or don't think your great-grandfather was a monster. what's more important is you accept that your grandfather fought to preserve a monstrous cause. it's almost like how we think about people who were like there's not a racist bone in my body, or like there's no racist blood in my heart, or whatever formulations people use. it's like i'm not interested in the sort of this spiritual or physiological notions of racism in relation to your body. i think it's much more important to think about, and were having a much more robust con

and the idea that thomas jefferson can actually say that poetry is beneath -- what is it? it is beneath the dignity of responding to a critically. the fact that he could dismiss the art and have children who are black, i mean, to me, i will never, ever consider thomas jefferson in the same way. you had some very cool ideas that you took from, let's say rousseau and locke, you spun it, took ownership of it, but i'm not going to forget that you took some ideas from white guys in europe as well, and you were able to justify your bad behavior and somehow, white americans today are thinking that he's a good guy. i want to know how far you can go back, but this is really important to me because i wanted to talk about you being an artist. there is a wonderful paragraph here on page try six -- page 26. i am going backwards. donna and grace are the two women that clint meets when he goes to monticello. and that paragraph, that first paragraph, if you could read that for us, on page 26. clint: donna and grace, and so money people, specifically white people, have often understood sla

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yeah, so is it is it possible for us to believe that george washington thomas jefferson? work monsters right is that is our heart for us to say and and also as a possible that you could be a beautiful thinker and have amazing architectural taste and be a gourmand and be a monster. yeah, i mean it's interesting even that sort of formulation is fascinating because because i'm almost less interested in you know for greg saying you're asking me to accept my great great grandfather was a monster. and i'm like, i'm not really interested in the interiority of your grandfather's spirit or like walking his heart, you know, like it's much less interesting or relevant to me if you think or don't think you're great grandfather was a monster with more important to me is that you accept that your grandfather thought to preserve a monstrous cause and that it's almost kind of like how we think about like people who are like there's not a racist bone in my body where like there's you know, no racist blood in my heart or whatever whatever formulations people use and and it's like i'm not i

thomas jefferson, james monroe, ronald reagan or joe biden? would you like to press your luck?ld and it's ronald reagan. kennedy: you are at zero now. it was james monroe. 80.61%. [laughter] >> ridiculous. kennedy: jessica. >> the first time you answered with something other than zero. kennedy: which presidents face is on but 2-dollar bill? thomas jefferson, john adams, franklin roosevelt or martin ben brown what you like to put tried your look before your answer? >> no. kennedy: you don't want to press your luck? >> well, i don't really know. kennedy: really? >> well text me a picture and then i will answer t the questi. >> she probably will. >> fdr? kennedy: oh my god, no. spike. all right. the last question. you are up against not neil patrick harris. jesus, jim. >> i'm already quitting, rights? i am in the lead. kennedy: yes. >> i'm a libertarian so i will press my luck. kennedy: who's the only president to serve as priest chief. justice of the supreme court? james buchanan, william herrick taft or ruth bader ginsburg? >> oh man, can you say them again? kennedy: franklin pi

before the changes, thomas jefferson high school for science and technology was 80% minority.or asian americans and as you know, there are a diverse group amongst themselves. they range from southie and is enemies' house ran from chinese to japanese and all sorts in between so it's a very diverse community but they are not the right kind of minority so to make room for the students they want, the elite schools have to punish asian americans because they want those feet. charles: you mentioned boston this week unanimously, any school committee voted to change the entrance exam, it's interesting because i talked about inequality, isn't that on the school systems? i looked at the curriculum particularly black and hispanic neighborhoods, they are watered down designed for failure, there's no way you could pass an interest exam to be schools with these curriculums. you don't take the courses they are the ones who want to keep asian exclusions who are excelling, it is crazy to me. >> it is crazy and as you say, want to talk about scandals and nonperformance, public school systems in