but i'm related to thomas jefferson through his great great grandson. whose name was moncure robinson taylor remember dad said his mother's name was robinson or taylor. he wasn't sure remember i had the bible with the initials dt. jefferson had a great great grandson. he had a lot of great great grandchildren. he had a great great grandson named monk here robinson taylor and it turns out that he was my great-grandfather. that would have meant of course that i was descended from jefferson and his wife martha. well, skelton. and not from jefferson and sally hemiswell. i've got to tell you i was really disappointed. i really wanted to be a hemmings. eventually with cinders help and going through these documents what you see here in front of us. i discovered that in fact, i am descended from sally hemings are her family and hey sally henry's. my great-grandmother had a brother named peter. then we can see it. this is this is his death certificate. and we see here on the death certificate that his mother's maiden name was sally hammonds. so if you're in the s

i am related to thomas jefferson through his great, great grandson. that said his brother's name was robertson or taylor, he wasn't sure. remember, i had the bible with the initials d.t. jefferson had a great, grandson, he had a lot of grandchildren. it turns out, that he was my great-grandfather. that would mean of course, i was a descendant from thomas jefferson. and not from thomas jefferson and sally hemings. i was really disappointed. i wanted to be a hemings. eventually, with cinder's help, i discovered that in fact i am descended from sally hemings and her family, or a sally hemings. my great grandmother had a brother name peter. this is his death certificate. we see on the death certificate that his mother's maiden name was sally hemings. so if you are in the south and you are saying hemings, what does it sound like? hemins. her name was sally hemins. she was named after her now famous and, sally hemings. her father was peter hemings. a brother of sally hemings. which means that peter hemings was my three times great grandfather. we were doing

new york only. 2 days later, the famous declaration of independence was adopted, drawn up thomas jefferson, benjamin, franklin and other founding fathers of the united states on june 7, 1903 at a chemical congress in berlin, german scientists willy markwald. he announced the discovery of a new chemical element, polonium. he recognized the priority of the french physicists marie and pierre curie, who discovered polonium 4 years earlier. mark volt conducted his research and also discovered polonium, but later. at first he left to call it radiotelurium, that these are different elements, but then he admitted his mistake; polonium is very radioactive, it is not visible and does not exist in the free state. it is a decay product. uranium with a very short half -life as early as 1910, marie pierre, then already dead, managed to isolate this element. in its pure form, polonium is a powerful emitter of alpha particles, which later helped to discover neutrons. today in the colony they are used for autonomous installations in space and deep-sea vehicles, as well as in medicine. about how then in the

i said to mike, if you do this, you can be thomas jefferson.ou're no thomas jefferson. >> trump also said if he decides to run again for president, and is re-elected, he would, quote, seriously look at pardons for the january 6th defendants. my god, joe. i mean, this, to me, is, i mean, we talked about this before, but the fact that he continues now, i just wonder, i mean if this ends up in the legal realm, what would happen? >> well -- >> he might get charged. >> let's talk about -- the judge was exactly right. they are a clear and present danger to the constitution of the united states. donald trump is a clear and present danger. he was in 2020. judge luttig is right. one of the most revered conservative legal minds over the past generation is right. he remains a clear and present danger. he somehow overlooked the fact that this so-called simple protest led to police officers just having the hell beaten out of them. one going home and dying of a stroke the next day. others committing suicide because of what they saw that day. he somehow forgo

thomas jefferson was a vice president among many things, but thomas jefferson had the same exact problemy 1800s with georgia, witch was unable to properly -- which was unable to properly count its votes. hear ye, the state of georgia is unable to properly count our votes! thomas jefferson said, oh, we are going to take your votes. we aren't sending them back. we are taking them. he took the votes, and they got elected. he and his wonderful president. i said to mike, if you do this, you can be thomas jefferson! [laughter] after it all went down, i looked at him and said, mike, hate to say this, but you are no thomas jefferson. [laughter] [applause] look at our country now! look at our country no. i'm not sure. maybe the state legislatures wouldn't have acted, but i think they would have because they were looking at a lot of things. right now, we have the nastiest inflation we have ever seen. we have a war in ukraine with perhaps millions and millions of people dying. in the end, i think it will be a lot more people. when you look at these cities ruthlessly and horribly bombed to hell, we

andrew jayashaughnessy is vice president of the thomas jefferson foundation at monticello and saunders director of the robert h smith international center for jefferson studies. his previous books included an empire divided the american revolution and the british caribbean and the men who lost america joining him in conversation is holly brewer burke professor of american history and associate professor at the university of maryland now that's here from andrew o'shaughnessy and holly brewer. thank you for joining us today. hello everyone. thank you so much for coming. i think this is going to be a very fun conversation about a terrific book and an important topic that's it continues to be relevant and powerful. and most particularly the questions are about what is the legacy of the american revolution? what does it mean in terms of? citizenship on especially higher education and how should we understanding conflicts of her ideals versus realities in the complex atmospheres in the republic? but education is currently and especially higher education is currently very strongly deb. ated w

the founding fathers of our country like george washington, thomas jefferson, james madison .en who are now considered racists. we survived wars. but now, we face the greatest danger, the left wing in our country has become the enemy within. that sounds dramatic. -- are you worried for your family, your freedom? the left now controls the -- party, government, news media, big tech, hollywood, corporate board rooms and now some of our top military leaders. they are working hard to be defined america, silencer opponent, and that means each view. they're destroying just about everything they touch and they have their hands on everything. think about what they are trying to destroy. it is a long list. american history, patriotism, border security, gender, traditional morality, capitalism, fiscal responsibility, opportunity, individualism, judeo-christian values, free-speech, law enforcement, religious decree, parental -- in schools and private ownership of firearms. the 'woke" left wants that gone. -- the "woke" left wants that gone. they want complete control of our lives. "woke"

thomas jefferson's time, and this is one of her favorite quotes from thomas jefferson that i was grace the garden. the failure of one thing replaced repaired by the success of, another and instead -- this was assigned we kept in the jefferson beds the whole time. how did we decide what to grow? it was easy. with the first family eight. the national park service staff worked with the white house chefs with what they would use in the kitchen, what they would use in state events whether first family would eat. -- the chefs would come down and harvest throughout the year. -- they use some fruit for the first family's private meals, but these are tomatoes and radishes that were also a vegetable kebab that was that one of the state, congressional picnics. i think this was 2015. also the thing that they couldn't use. white house chefs process them for later use. and everything else they could not use was given away to a local soup kitchen. at the end of the summer, the first lady would have another gathering with school kids. they would come out, and the white house chefs would come out as we

others are specifically about presidential households, so like, one for thomas jefferson, one for james madison, etc. this helped guide the timeline. finally, what is most important to me, the stories of the individuals. so we have been able to tell these really incredible stories through, you know, a person that i really enjoy is a woman named alethea browning tanner, she is very inspiring to me. she may have worked in the white house, i found a little bit about it for that but it is not confirmed. she did sell vegetables in a stand in lafayette park, right across the street. there's rumors that jefferson visited that stand, and her owner allowed her to do so. she ended up saving her money from that stand and 1810 purchases their own freedom for 1400 dollars. she then goes on to purchase many, many, other members of her family into freedom. she establishes herself in the thriving free black in washington d. c.. and then she eventually even buys a home very close to the white house. so that is what we call it slavery in the president's neighborhood. these individuals are part of the pre

plants that were grown in monticello during thomas jefferson some. and this was one of her famous quote by thomas jefferson that always great the garden. failure one thing replaced by the success of one another and instead of one harvest, and continued one throughout the year. so this is a side that was kept in the jefferson beds through the whole time. and how did we decide what to grow? well, it was easy. but the first family eight. and so, the national park service staff would work with the white house chefs and what they would use in the kitchen. but the first family would eat and what they would use for state events. and so, and then, you know, we helped out the first lady's office to make all this happen, and the chef would come down and harvest throughout the year. so spring, summer, figs, leaks, all kinds of things, all through the fall. we helped provide. and yes, they used them for the first family's private meals but these are tomatoes and relishes that are vegetable kebab that was one of the state, the congressional picnics. i think this

the founding fathers of our country, george washington, thomas jefferson, james madison, men who areow considered to be evil racist, according to the top scholars in america's elite universities. we survived the war of 1812, civil war, world war i, world war ii, korea, vietnam, cold war. today we face the greatest danger that we have ever faced, the militant left wing in our country has become the enemy within. some may think that is a pretty dramatic, right? the enemy within. yes i am. here is why. let's do a quick report. our culture and our country. when you turn on the news at night, you do not even recognize this country. are you worried for your family and are you worried for your freedom? the left controls the democratic party, the entire federal government, news media, academia, big tech, hollywood, corporate board rooms, and a now even some of our top military leaders. they are working hard to redefine america, silence the opponent, that means each of you. they are destroying about everything they touch and they have got their hands on everything. just think about what they

you don't judge the people who hide the flyer or judge the people who adored thomas jefferson i don't care what he did with sally hemmings. it you maintain a distance from them and then you leave the scene and you give us context for what was going on. there were a lot of journalists in this day and age would want to dive in there and judge. what do you think it is about you to observe and not reserve judgments. >> there is a version of this book in which i spend the day with confederate veterans and doing daily show kind of thingus very clearly making them look ridiculous. for me that is not a natural part. i also really wanted to understand why they believe so many things that run so profoundly countered to the evidence at hand. all the conversations with jeff members of the confederate veterans in the salt-and-pepper and ponytail the round valley and the biker vest with a conversation he was told me when he was a boy his grandfather used to take into the cemetery and his grandfather used to bring them to this gazebo in the cemetery and they would sing the anthem and watch the deer

there was a debate between three of the most prominent founding fathers doctor benjamin rush, thomas jefferson and benjamin franklin. they were debating what was the world's oldest profession. [laughter] doctor rusher was a physician. and so he said the world's oldest profession is a proficient address was eight physician per eve was cut out of the rib of adam. jefferson said no i don't think that is right. jefferson was an architect he designed monticello felt something near and dear he said the world oldest profession is the architect. after all, who do you think created the order out of all the chaos? franklin said no you are wrong. the oldest profession is the politician. who do you think created the chaos in the first place. [laughter] and unfortunately policy has mattered probably more than ever over the last few years. i am pleased to say on issue after issue florida has led the way. and i will talk about some of the statistics and some of the outcomes. but honestly you don't even need to read that. you can open your eyes and look and see how people behave. not only have we seen an unpr

others like thomas jefferson all believing we could become a nation where people would be more important than anything else and where the people could govern themselves. i think jefferson would have a lot to say today about those democratic principles. he first taught equal rights and equal opportunity for all. and abraham lincoln why lincoln has become a hero to the oppressed people all over the world because he lived and died for freedom and equality and because he led the country through one of its greatest crises. he believed that government of the people by the people and for the people should not perish from the earth. well bill, washington and jefferson and lincoln are dead. they began our democracy, but they knew the job would have to be finished by those who lived after them. and they knew that this democracy would last only as long as its citizens were willing to keep working on it. it's our government bill. from here on it's up to us. i'll kind of do a slight introduction i think as i know to before this topic is always intrigued me partly because i have a son who's adopted an

there was a debate between three of the most prominent founding fathers doctor benjamin rush, thomas jeffersonnd benjamin franklin. they were debating what was the world's oldest profession. [laughter] doctor rusher was a physician. and so he said the world's oldest profession is a proficient address was eight physician per eve was cut out of the rib of adam. jefferson said no i don't think that is right. jefferson was an architect he designed monticello felt something near and dear he said the world oldest profession is the architect. after all, who do you think created the order out of all the chaos? franklin said no you are wrong. the oldest profession is the politician. who do you think created the chaos in the first place. [laughter] and unfortunately policy has mattered probably more than ever over the last few years. i am pleased to say on issue after issue florida has led the way. and i will talk about some of the statistics and some of the outcomes. but honestly you don't even need to read that. you can open your eyes and look and see how people behave. not only have we seen an unprec

like i said earlier on this show, thomas jefferson was writing a lot about what the establishment clause meant and what the government could and could not do,nd one of those things was not compelling its citizenry to fund religious activities, especially when they do not agree with those activities. he called it sinful and tyrannical. so it is not just rebecca markert saying th. it is the foundingathers. ho: rob, hello. caller: yes, good morning. i've got three questions concerning media, religion, and free speech. a couple of weeksgo a rorter was assassinated in israel. in senegal a person was beaten because of their relion. [indiscernible] -- the they cannot sak any thing negative about israel. in texas, the printable gets dusty principal -- the principal gets fired bause they were going to express that a certain ethnic group cannot be preferred over another. host: ok. ms. markert, do you want to start? >> i am not familiar with the international exam for -- international exam that the caller brought up, or the example in texas. if he is still on the line -- host: he's not, i apologize

pleasure to welcome you this evening as i am leslie green bowman, the president of the thomas jefferson foundation and it's my distinct pleasure to welcome you this evening as we celebrate the launch of gayle jessup white its reclamation, we -- and the descendants search of their families lasting legacy. before we get started, i want to welcome a very special guest who is with me tonight. we are

multi racial democracy that we are today it really sets up a new origin story of democracy 1776, thomas jefferson, juneteenth is really the answer to what fred douglas had questioned in 1862 what is the 4th of july? how could you have an independence holiday durham the super exploitation of black folks the assault, rape, murder, the building of capitalism on the backs of black people that occurred during the period from 1776 to 1865 >> what happens after 1863 that leads up to order number three in 1865 >> it is really the civil war, there is no ending of racial slavery, technically the end of racial slavery in the united states is the first week of december 1865 with the ratification of the 13th amendment, which ends racial slavery, except in instances of punishment we end racial slavery but very soon after we start off the system and start up the system that is going to lead to mass incarceration in the 20th and 21st century we there was no, that is what is so interesting about american history is that the civil war, which is a war that people did not want to talk about or call it a war between

thomas jefferson and a descendants search for her family's lasting legacy. and before we get started, i want to welcome a very special guest who's with here tonight. who's with us? we are greatly honored that the first lady of virginia. here tonight with us. thank you. many of

it seems like the perfect chance if i was ever going to get just as thomas jefferson this would be. had to ask myself. i wanted to know more. so before the marathon, i did some research. i had to find out why was jefferson so fascinated by wine? so, you know, he's a very serious guy. you know, he's not joking around a lot. you know, one doesn't seem like that serious a topic for a founding father. but you put all of these different one references in his travel got. in fact he told travelers, he listed 13 different types of one that he wanted them to find. so i learned about it. and so eventually, i'm going to read just a short passage from my book about why one was important to jefferson. jefferson's travels into southern france as well as italy and germany formed part of his quest for the perfect bottle of wine. this wasn't just so he could lay out the best table in america, although he would do that too. until independence, americans had drunk only rough, overly sweet madeira, forced on them by the english and their restrictive trade policies. now the winds of friends were open to

don't judge the people who hide the fire and you don't judge the people who tell you i adore thomas jefferson. you maintain a distance from them and you leave the scene and give us context for what's going on in there a lot of journalists who would want to judge. what do think it is about you that makes you want to observe and not reserve judgment? >> to your point there is a version of this book in which i spend the day with sons of confederate and do a daily show kind of thing and clearly make them look. and for me that's not a natural part ofo my ethos and i really wanted to understand why they believean some of the things thy believe. so many things that run sout profoundly counter to the evidence at hand.. a conversation with the confederate -- a handlebar mustache and confederate paraphernalia and he was telling me about how when he was w a boy he used to take him to the cemetery in his grandfather would bring into this gazebo and they would sing the old dixie anthem and botch the deer, the forestes at night beyond the trs and watched the fireflies in his grandfather would tell him the

thomas jefferson is one of those people. a certain accent that he was in philadelphia to be part of the writing of the admiration of independence, he was subletting for his cousin. he writes about how he's trying to finish, finish, finish, and go back. he comes back, wraps up the decorative independence, and then wants to go back. jefferson wrote a three draft of the constitution that he tried to get people interested in and get people behind. he was very active and involved in the constitution that virginia did create. >> so, it is easy in opposition to be united. so they had some notions of what they did not want. they did not want standing armies. they did not want to royal governors who could sit down and shut down their colonial adventures. -- they do not want to accept its sovereignty over all matters pertaining to local government. they thought that their local government should have a role in this. what did they hold up in opposition to english rule? they were local legislators. this is going to have a lot of interes

he had to send the vote, couldn't do anything, so i said to mike, if you do this, you can be thomas jefferson, and then after it all went down, i looked at him one day and i said mike, hate to say this, but you're no thomas jefferson. >> the next public hearing for the january 6th committee is tomorrow. it will be led by congressman adam schiff. schiff says the panel will lay out the evidence that then president trump was involved in a plot to push slates of fake electors to overturn the election. >> do you have evidence that the former president himself was involved? >> yes, we'll show evidence of the president's involvement in this scheme, we'll also again show evidence about what his lawyers came to think about this scheme, and we'll show courageous state officials who stood up and said they wouldn't go along with this plan to either call back into session or decertify the results for joe biden. the system held because a lot of state and local elections officials upheld their oath to the constitution. a lot of them republicans, as well as democrats. we'll show during the hearing what the p

father died john quincy adams later recorded his father's last words three very poignant words thomas jefferson survives had no way of knowing that jefferson had died on the very same day. as americans then gathered across the country to honor the 50th anniversary of the declaration of independence news of adams and jefferson's passing spread. and what had begun as a month of celebration? is now one of mourning and commemoration. and his citizens began to listen to eulogy speeches and tributes. in churches government buildings and in public spaces and while jefferson and adams had their own opinions and how they should be remembered it would be up to those living in 1826 and successive generations even up till now to define and to shape their memory. will presidential sites such as yours are frequently called upon to discuss the legacies of people who have held the highest office in our country. and one way when very important way when iconic way as we all know these men will eventually die. and it's how that death is marked and remembered. becomes very important our next panel will provide won

so for example the election of 1800 when john adams is running against thomas jefferson. really fraught election. john adams ends up not being a final candidate and you end up having aaron burr and thomas jefferson running against each other. it's personally was supposed to be the vice presidential candidate gets really fraught when i was researching my first book. i saw people talking about they were afraid of civil war there were people arming in maryland if they had to march to washington to take the government. so it's it's a moment and after the election is successful someone writes to jefferson and says, what would you have done? things had not gone well. what would you have done? first of all jefferson says we let the other side know that if they thought they were going to do something they weren't going to get away with it, which is sort of like oh but but more interestingly he says. well we would have tweaked the constitution and then you know, i think he says wound up the clock again and gone back to whatever we were doing. so it's it's i think you always have t

so like one for thomas jefferson one for james madison, etc. those help guide the timeline and then finally what's most important to me the the stories of the individuals. so we've been able to tell these really incredible stories through, you know, i want to another person that i really enjoy is a woman named alethia browning tanner. she's very inspiring to me. she may have worked in the white house. i've found some a little bit of evidence for that. it's not confirmed, but she did sell vegetables in a stand in lafayette park right across the street. there's rumors that jefferson visited that stand and her owner allowed her to do so she ends up saving her money at that stand and in 1810 purchases her own freedom for 1400 dollars, and then she goes on to purchase many many other. members of her family and to freedom and she establishes herself in the thriving free black community in washington dc and then she eventually even buys a home within really close to the white house. and so i that's why we call it slavery in the president's neighborhoo

well, what's interesting is that he and thomas jefferson talk a lot in this period particularly about getting rid of slavery and jefferson. i'm going to show you a phrase that jefferson put in his draft constitution and up through the us constitution. yes, they do talk about it and they want they want government to stop it, but that they don't stop, you know, but that they don't free their own enslaved. property people so this is the this is the paradox. this is the incompatible moment. but this also shows what? you know people trying to adhere to these beliefs these ideas and how it's coming up against. this whole sleep holding system and what what individual choices and what collective choices the americans are going to make in this moment. so, you know jefferson's drafts on this constitution are fascinating. he called it new modeling government and this is a phrase right out of the english revolution the puritan army in the english revolution was the new model army, right? so he's like we're starting over jefferson, you know is is a strangely, you know, very interestingly kind of r

if we have 1776 and thomas jefferson, juneteenth is really the answer to what frederick douglass had questioned in new york, what is the fourth of july? how could you have an independence holiday during antebellum slavery with the exploitation of black folks, the assault, the murder, the rape, the building of capitalism on the backs of black people that occurred during that time until 1865. host: what happened after 1863 that leads up to order number three in 1865? guest: it's really the civil war. there is no ending of racial slavery. technically, the ratification of the 13th amendment, which ends racial slavery. we end racial slavery, soon after we start the system that is going to lead to mass incarceration in the 20th and 21st centuries. that's why what's so interesting, the civil war which sometimes people don't want to talk about or they call it a war between states. it's a war about the emancipation of slavery. that's the key to the whole thing. the only way emancipation could happen is through the deceit -- defeat and surrender of the confederacy. that's what happens. appomat