earlier we had talk toed writer, composer and star of hamilton lin manuel miranda and its director thomas kailtion. >> you sit in a room for six years making somethingment and you have the wildest dream's version of how you think a show will be received. and we're experiencing that. so we are just trying to hang on while we can. i started writing this in 2008 while i was still in my show, in the heights. i was on vacation, my first vacation from the show and i picked up ron chernow's book at random at borders just knowing that-- . >> rose: you went up and said i will take this one. >> it had great reviews in the back. i knew he died in a dual and so i knew it would have a bang ending. and fell in love with the story, really, that, the dic- ensian nature almost from the second chapper. >> rose: at the point you say dickens, dickens and dickens, what was the dickensian aspect of his life. >> alexander hamilton was born in neves, possibly out of wed lock. he was-- his father split by the time he was ten years old. his mother died in bed with him a few short years later. his brother was apprentice