. >>> for more on the state of our homeland security on the 13th anniversary, i'm joined by thomas kain, former governor, and co-share of the bipartisan commission. it's a pleasure to see you, thank you for coming in. >> thank you for having me. >> how far have we come to secure america since the 9/11 attacks. you guys came out with a 10th anniversary report and you said that the world as more dangerous in recent years. 43% more terrorist attacks, stay the state department, than the year before. polls show the american people think we are less safe now. so why do we not hear that from the white house? today? >> first of all, i think we are safer. not as safe as we should be, but we are safer, and a number of recommendations have been implemented, that's a reason. the fbi and the c.i.a. talk to each other and share in fact. if they shared information before 9/11, perhaps there wouldn't be an inch, because there's information that could have caught a couple of hijackers. a number of things have been reformed, but it's a new threat now. it's changed, it's not the same threat. it's not peop