it was with my colleague, thomas keenan and we wrote a book called mingle, it's called the birth of forensic aesthetics. what's the relation between forensics and the statics? for us, if was the reading of the process by which the attempt to identify whether that skeleton that was found under wrong, the mock ray in brazil was that off notorious. not see war, criminal murder, dr. phosphates. joseph main color found this call. they didn't have dna yet, and they started reading the scuffle traces. in fact, what was interesting is that we discovered that for forensic contra apologise, they were reading bones like they were. photographs exposed to life, like in negative is exposed to light. right, so nutrition and ones and everything else with kind of be inscribed and this call itself has emerged as a kind of as a surface of inscription. and it kind of showed, with looking at the entire process, it made me understand that the forensic process that happens in the quote is actually to rhetorical process. mature. tauriel, nash, you need to show an object to an audience. you need to make claim to tha