that we learned early on with the recovery-oriented system of care notion, was that particularly thomas kirk's model in connecticut is that the person is considered to be in recovery the second they have that aha moment. that they realize that they need treatment for their illness and, and from then on they still consider themselves in, in recovery. would that work, i mean in other sectors? i think that, i think that that's very, very important and one of the things i want to say is that, in terms of the development of the recovery or system of care, the focus on language has not been something that i've seen. and i think that everything we do, if we're, if we're doing a conference, whatever we do, there needs to be a component in there on language. we really need to push this because it's, it's something that we can do that doesn't cost a lot of money, but it's key, it's key in how we define and how we build our systems. well i believe very strongly that the work that, that csat has done and cathy nugent within one of our branches, with the addiction technology transfer centers, is beginning