policy director, also a former clerk of justice clarence thomas who we were just discussing and former child abuse and sex crimes prosecutor wendy murphy republican, yes, often joined the liberal bloc on the bench in his later years but taking away liberal or conservative leanings kind of on this, what's your reaction to justice stevens speaking out against someone who could be a justice? >> all right, well, let's be clear. he was the leading liberal on the court. that doesn't change, you know, the merits of what he was saying but we should describe him accurately. i was disappointed to see his comments. i think if you see -- i think there's a lot of parallels between justice thomas' speech, the high-tech lynching, very passionate defense of himself he gave in his hearings and justice kavanaugh's. when you have a man who is falsely accused defending his reputation and defending his family and his reputation, it's not surprising. judge kavanaugh actually had an op-ed in the "wall street journal" today saying, look, i was very passionate, i probably should have been less, you know, maybe less so, but i have a commitment to being nonparti