thomas o'connor specializes in treating conditions related to the abuse of performance enhancing drugs. the top 5 saw arms were intended for medical use. yeah, they never made it to the end of the trials for human, utility and madison. so they're just, they're sitting in that, in that quagmire. why? because the side effects, i think because there were some significant hyper tension, you know, cardiac concerns. one, it animal studies cancer. he's watched research chemicals explode in popularity over the years. and he spoke to boston about his use of these drugs and a radio interview in 2015. you want to not your parents. if your parents are listening, you may, you, you, you don't care if you die 1st little do i think i'm reside tomorrow. no, i basically, you know, i was like your young kid. you don't know your home, the ground. you're going to kill yourself. you're going to die. just seems wildly dangerous to point is very dangerous. it's a wild west. despite warnings for his friends and family boss to continue to experiment, he started injecting a peptide called a tip, a tide. there's

wee did get the votes of chief justice rehnquist and justice o'connor and justice thomas and in some sense to beat the spread because most people would have figured i was going to getno no votes so getting three votes we are in vegas now so if there werere betting odds i could gues with the spread would be and i would have beat the spread. an ex-esteemed litigator made the case. one of the lessons of the book consideringon that was ostensiby allow some paper and the obamacare challenge challenge was a loss on paper one the messages of the book in some respects we won both cases in an important way. we won the medical marijuana case because medical marijuana when i first got involved was a fringe issue. that was the reaction i got from people when they heard i was doing it. the time we were done with their litigation 2005 it was a mainstream issue and we have gone from that point to where most dates have legal medical marijuana and it prevents the doj from enforcing marijuana laws in states that have medical marijuana. that's a pretty big victory in our case platform to issue my clien

we did get the votes of chief justice rehnquist and justice o'connor and justice thomas in some sense. i beat spread because i think most people have figured that i was going to get no votes or one vote. and by getting votes, if we're in vegas now. so if there was a betting odds on it, i could have bet that as to what the spread would and i would have beat the spread, i actually made this joke. paul clement, who's now an extra and esteemed litigator who i argued against in that, and i made this joke about how i beat the spread and his retort to me was, well, i've the case and he's but one of the lessons of the book, considering that that was ostensibly a loss on paper. nfib the obamacare challenge was a loss on paper. one of the messages in the book is we in some respects we really won both cases an important way, and we won the medical marijuana case because medical marijuana, when i first got involved in the late nineties was a very crank fringe issue because that was the reaction i got from people when they heard i was doing it by time we were done with our litigation in 2005, it w

thomas, you may begin the retirement meeting at this time. >> thank you, madam secretary. please call the roll. >> commissioner o'connor. >> i believe he's present, he just went to the bathroom. >> thank you. >> commissioner gandhi. >> present. >> vice president thomas. >> present. >> commissioner engardio. >> present. >> and commissioner driscoll. >> present >> thank you, we have a quorum. >> next item. >> item 2, communication. we welcome the public comments after period. there will be an opportunity to comment on each discussion or action item on the agenda. each comment is limited to two minutes. public comment will be taken both in-person and remotely by call-in. for each item, the board will take public comment first by people attending the meeting in-person and remotely. comments or opportunities to speak during public comment period are available by phone by call 415-655-0001 access code 2662, 631, 2479 then pound and pound again wh. connected you will hear the meeting discussions but you'll be muted and in listening mode only. when your item of interest comes up, please star 3 to be on liven. speak clearly and

we did get the votes of chief justice rehnquist and justice o'connor and justice thomas in some sense. i beat spread because i think most people have figured that i was going to get no votes or one vote. and by getting votes, if we're in vegas now. so if there was a betting odds on it, i could have bet that as to what the spread would and i would have beat the spread, i actually made this joke. paul clement, who's now an extra and esteemed litigator who i argued against in that, and i made this joke about how i beat the spread and his retort to me was, well, i've the case and he's but one of the lessons of the book, considering that that was ostensibly a loss on paper. nfib the obamacare challenge was a loss on paper. one of the messages in the book is we in some respects we really won both cases an important way, and we won the medical marijuana case because medical marijuana, when i first got involved in the late nineties was a very crank fringe issue because that was the reaction i got from people when they heard i was doing it by time we were done with our litigation in 2005, it w

thomas said his, he was going i'm i'm old and coming apart. he was about to turn 83. william rehnquist back from that era also died in office. sandra day o'connor was a little bit of an exception. she went when she was only 76 rather than in her 80s as most of them but she left to care for her husband, who was suffering for him from alzheimer's. so nothing is guaranteed even though the justices also look at who's elected. if donald trump is elected president, clarence thomas and samuel alito might think of it, even though they're youngsters still, if kamala harris is elected, i would think that sonia sotomayor, why or what at least think of it? but they all are still young and still and senior and in the end might not go during the first four-year term. >> yeah. we know that was a part of the calculus during the trump administration for their picks, their age, they were trying to get folks that would be on the bench for a long time. joan biskupic. thank you so much. and speaking of the trump administration, let's go back out to donald trump, who's live in rocky mountain, north carolina. let's listen >> kamala has been comparing her political op