the institute for political research and catholic studies at catholic university of america; and thomas reese is a jesuit priest and senior analyst for the "national catholic reporter." we heard the president say today i am an admirer to the pope. is it admiration mutual? >> i think it is. the visit was described as very cordial by the vatican. the video showed them interacting in a very positive and friendly way. i think this was a meeting where two people, you know, both of whom had walked the slums of their favorite cities. president obama as a community organizer in south chicago and the pope as the archbishop, both of them walking through their favorite city but the slums of their favorite city. i think they had a lot in common and a lot to share. >> yet, yet, we do pay attention to the gulf between the two men, how wide is it really, stephen schneck. >> i think probably the most important thing to realize is that at one level they both share kind of an interesting vision. that is both gentlemen, i think, take the measure of civilization to be the quality of life for the poorest and most