case, there's right wing sort of there's a right wing sort of philosopher and economist called thomas sowellknow if you've heard of him, american guy. and he says, parts of says, you know, in many parts of america, the 20th century, america, in the 20th century, the places to live are the safest places to live are where organised crime took over because absolutely where organised crime took over because streets absolutely where organised crime took over because streets clean. solutely where organised crime took over because streets clean. you:ely where organised crime took over because streets clean. you know keep the streets clean. you know , get you know, , and you wouldn't get you know, they fulfilled a role. >> and there was a vacuum in this case. these retailers obviously are paying their taxes, but now they're going to pay taxes, but now they're going to pay the police and i hope they are not to going be as human as french gendarmerie because they might run cctv pictures and make no arrest. >> i mean, it's a good question whether the shoplifting reflects the cost of living prices or i