plat was not a city lawyer like thompkins, they said. who rules in splendor and waddles in lecture. this is the beginning of a kind of anti-intellectualism, anti-aristocratic feeling, and anti-elitism that we use that term, they just aristocratic we use the elitism that is endemic to american culture that was left, although not to the same extent today. in pennsylvania, this should give you another example. simon said it was a self educated man, a son of a poor mechanic that he worked his way to become governor and 1808. no education. from his lack of sophistication was a badge of honor. when his opponents mocked his obscure origins and called his followers clodhopper, that was all he needed. he and his followers said well, that's great. i am glad to be a clodhopper in a society of clod hoppers. and he used that as a successful campaign technique and became governor. as a result. so americans became i think so thoroughly democratic through this whole period that much of the period of political activity, beginning with the constitution, which devoted to finding means and divided to m