your initial impressions of these memorial ceremony as vent the tickly investments to chancellor thompson lamech i had to say when i was most moved i suppose like most people by mr butler cops is words. extraordinary i was working out trying to do the arithmetic there and working out that he must be i think 88 to 89 years old an extraordinary strength an extraordinary by teletype for a man of that age and you know it's one of things i was a few years ago in auschwitz myself. for a commemoration ceremony and had the privilege of meeting a number of survivors and i was astonished i shouldn't have been but i was astonished at the strength of all these people that something under the magical mention but of course when one realizes people who survived this enormities they must have been extraordinary people who survived and i think that is something that obviously touched on the americans he referred to it specifically said she was very humbled by. by the strength that the people showed the survivors have shown in sharing their memories i think the 2nd aspect that came out of that was something it's