thorman's methodology that he utilized never followed, even in 1985, the proper procedure.e proper techniques, that is catastrophic in a criminal trial. >> the blood stain analysis was not based on scientific principles. it was all junk. we knew that. it was all bogus science. occasionally i'll read about a case and get mad and want to get involved, contact the lawyers, contact somebody and go see the person in prison. i went to see him a in beaumont, texas. we had a great visit. he's santa claus, okay? he's your sunday school teacher. he's the sweetest guy you're going to meet, okay? his spirit was unbroken. he laughed a lot, smiled a lot. pretty remarkable guy. >> grisham so believed in joe bryan's innocence, it helped spark the idea for his 2019 bestselling novel, “the guardians.” >> this is part of the author's note to “the guardians.” and i write, the plot of "the guardians" is based on a real story, sad to say. it involves a texas inmate named joe bryan. joe should have been exonerated and freed years ago, but it hasn't happened. >> at this point, it seems like moment