congressman thornberry thank you for being here. jennifer martinez the politico is our guest reporter. congressman, what in your view are the cybersecurity needs of the u.s. to defend against and to you think that the white house plan introduced in may addresses those needs? >> guest: well, the country faces a wide spectrum of threats in cyberspace, all the way from vandalism and petty crime to more serious crime, theft of intellectual property to things that people are calling cyberwarfare and so it is a wide spectrum of threats. i think the fundamental issue is that our laws and policies have not kept up with the changes in technology, and so to a large extent, the government is playing catch-up and that is what i think the white house proposal is trying to address. that is what we are trying to address and congress is to try to help update basically our laws and policies. i think the white house proposal has some very helpful elements in it. there are -- i think it is a good building block for steps that congress can and should t

mac thornberry serves on that committee. in fact, he's chair of the subcommittee on emerging threats and capabilities, homeland security, intelligence, commerce, oversight government reform and judiciary. just to follow up on jennifer's question, if you are reporting back in october, what do you think could possibly be past with regard to cybersecurity legislation in this congress? >> well, there are two or three pieces of legislation already moving in the house. that touch on cybersecurity. i think a subcommittee of energy and commerce is already reported out a data breach bill. we have a couple in science and services, a bill related to cybersecurity. things are moving. and again i think the hope is that with the framework, over the next year and a half, we can make substantial progress in a variety of areas. but not put all -- my preference personally would be not to put all of our eggs into a single 2,000 page bill that you have to ram through and nobody knows what's in it. i don't think there's a good history of that so

mac thornberry servers on that committee. -- serves on that committee. just to follow up on her question, if you are reporting back in october, what do you think a possibly be passed with regard to cyber security legislation in the congress? >> there are two or three pieces of legislation in the house. i think a subcommittee of energy and commerce is already reporting out of the bill. we have a couple of provisions and armed services. the science committee improved a bill related to cyber security. things are moving. again, the hope is that with the framework over the next 1.5 years, we can make substantial progress in a variety of areas. my preference would be to not put all our eggs into a single 2000 page bill that you have to ram through. there's not a good history of that approach. >> the budget crisis has consumed washington for months. how do you think that will impact the type of bills through the house ta? the house freshmen has made it clear they are against anything that will increase spending. do you see that as a possible issue going forward

>> guest: also i would ask congressman thornberry about the house gop freshman. they been very outspoken about how they are against anything that is going to increase spending and you were saying the budget is going to impact the type of legislation moving through the house. you see this as a possible issue that they will have to tackle later on down the line? >> clearly, if we don't address threats to our own cybernetworkr even encouraging collaboration with the private sector, that we are being penny-wise and pound-foolish because the damage that can be done and that already is being done in terms the amount of data sets we are seeing is costing us dearly right now and so it is much more effective to do those upfront things that we need to do now to make sure we have a robust cyberdefense on our networks, our cybernetworks and then obviously things we are seeing happening right now that are costing us at a very dear level. >> guest: what you think of the pentagon's newly released cyberstrategy? >> guest: i was at the pentagon for the rollout of the cybersecurit

when we talked with congressman thornberry, he was saying he preferred incentives over top-down regulation. do you agree? is. >> guest: i think it has to be a combination of the two. certainly, we have to have better and stronger regulation. our incentives won't accomplish what we need to accomplish, but where we can collaborate and encourage through incentives, we should certainly do that. >> host: and another problem that you've identified is a shortage of trained professionals who can deal with this ever-evolving and growing threat of cyber attacks. how big of a problem is this going to be for us later on down the line? >> guest: yeah. i'm so glad that you raised that point because that's another area that has to be addressed. we don't have enough people with the right skills and talents to go into the cybersecurity field right now. the director of the clandestine information technology office at the cia had said going back a couple of years ago that we only have about a thousand people in the country that can compete at a world class level in the area of cybersecurity, and what we real

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tonight on "the communicators," cyber security with rep mac thornberry and jim langevin.ke you to london now, where last week the british chancellor of the exchequer, george osborne, updated parliament on the stated the economy. his position is similar to the treasury secretary. this is about an hour and 20 minutes. >> we come now for a statement by the chancellor of the exchequer, mr. george osborn. >> here, here. >> mr. speaker, people will be concerned about the turmoil in the world financial markets. i want to update the house on what we're doing to protect britain from the storm. cause r causes of this instability. as of this morns, markets in asia and europe are a little calmer although some are still currently down. over the last month the dow jones index has fall p by over 14%, the french market is down 23 %, and it's striking that the german market is down 24% and even chinese equities are down 20% since november. bank shares in the all countries have been hit particularly hard, many sovereign bond markets, too, have been exceptionally volatile with market rates

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