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maria: congressman thank you very much it is good to see you this morning congressman mac thornberryhe white house is bracing for a flurry of document requests house democrats oversight control is on tap we're going to talk with alan dershowitz next up. maria: welcome back president trump just confirming a terrorist wanted for the deadly 2000 attack on the uss coal has been killed in a drone strike. the president tweeted this just a moment ago. our great military has delivered justice for the heros lost and wounded in the cowardly attack on the uss coal. we've just killed the leader of that attack, our work against al qaeda continues we will never stop in our fight against radical islamic terrorism. we will continue to follow this developing story and bring you the very latest updates as we get them. that tweet just from the president moments ago. embracing to serve as a check on the trump adminitration. lawmakers saying they will not wait for robert mueller's final report to investigate the president. well some of them are already reintroducing articles of impeachment. joining me ri

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thornberry. mr. thornberry: thank you, mr. chairman. i'll avoid getting into the broader budget issues which obviously affect a whole variety of things. i'd simply point out with d.o.d., homeland security, or any of the agencies, they have to formulate their budget months in advance of it even coming to us. one of the things that changed is that now we have thousands and tens of thousands of migrants who are coming in caravans, which we have not seen before. i think members, if they look at the statistics, which are provided by the department of homeland security, the days when we had a greater number of people but most of them were from mexico and you could simply put them back across the border are very different from these large family groups, 10,000, 12,000 people coming. yes, it changed the requirements. as we have been talking, if anything, we have to be more flexible to respond to changing circumstances. i think that's what the president is trying to do. i would prefer he not have to resort to d.o.d. to make up for gaps in depart

the pullout has drawn criticism from some lawmakers encouraging republican mac thornberry of the houseittee. watch. >> yes, i think it was a mistake. it worried our allies. it encouraged our enemies. i think the administration now is trying to backtrack from a blanket withdrawal, and trying to mitigate the sum of the adverse consequences. >> harris: wow. "the new york times" reporting that bolton has been working behind the scenes to so that withdrawal. president trump has pushed back in the street. "the feeling "new york times" has knowingly written a very inaccurate story on my intentions in syria. no different from my initial statements, we are leaving at a proper pace while at the same time consuming to fight isis and doing all else that is prudent and necessary." i want to delve into that a little bit. the president said we had defeated isis there. i have two questions. one, two british soldiers died just over the weekend, killed by isis. they aren't defeated, obviously. then you have bolton saying that when we defeat them these are going to be the conditions of us moving out. tha

. >> when you talk with tho thornberry, the top republican on the house armed services committee, he doesn't like this idea at all. he said we got this big increase in defense spending sometime ago, back in march of last year, you start to move it around, that's a problem. you talk to democrats, that might push them over the edge. they are afraid of president trump starting to abuse his article ii powers in the constitution. do you know what's good for the gander is good for the goose. how many times did we hear criticism from congressional republicans especially from former house speaker paul ryan who said, you know, president obama is going too far in using his executive power. we as the congress article i in the constitution need to put our foot down and assert our powers. if republicans are willing to cede this to president trump, why didn't they do that under the years with president obama? >> if there is a national emergency declared, which it seems unlikely tonight are republicans in the house and senate then going to say fine we'll vote to fund the government reopening? >> th

december, you and chairman thornberry had a statement about how you were concerned about a precipitous withdrawal and the problems like follow. now the pentagon says it will be a re-four-month. before troops are withdrawn. will that work out ok? adam smith: that depends on the plan. what are the national security objectives? one of the most concerning looking at this shortly after the president made his announcement, secretary pompeo and elton -- and security thesor bolton said decisions will be based on our interest. we want to commute to keep isis down, protect the kurds, and limit iranian influence. if those are the three objectives, the president must connect the dots. how does polling 2000 troops out of syria meet the policy objectives that his secretary of state and national security advisor have stated? this is part of the problem with the way president trump governance by the seat of his pants. he sent out a tech -- a tweet saying i will pull out a syria because we defeated isis. he referred to ourselves in the third person. we are not living in a reality show. we are living in

at foreign office questions, the shadow foreign secretary emily thornberry challenged jeremy hunt overabout the idea in the past. can i take the foreign secretary back to our last debate on brexit, where he gave me an answer that wasn't exactly convincing. so, i thought i'd give him another chance. four days after the referendum, i have nothing but kindness, it is my new year's resolution. four days after the referendum, the foreign secretary said, "we need to negotiate a deal and put it to the british people, either in a referendum or through a fresh general election. we will trust the british people to decide whether or not it is a good deal." so can i ask him again why he no longer believes in trusting the british people to decide whether they want the prime minister's deal? i do and we've had a general election, and over 80% of voters supported parties that wanted to leave the eu and free movement, but, look, i will happily take criticisms of our brexit policy on the chin, the moment labour actually has the courage to have its own brexit policy in the first place. and this morning,

thornberry in the house is one of them, who have expressed great skepticism about diverting necessary military funds for that purpose. it's going to be subject to a challenge, but that may be one way trump tries to save face and get out of this, the real crisis, which is is the government shutdown. >> if he did declare the national emergency, then -- is the prospect that that would lead to the reopening of the government fairly quickly? rep. connolly: what i said is that's one scenario. i don't think it's a guarantee. do my colleagues want to comment? >> it would still be up to trump. he'd have to sign the bill to open it up. he's not going to have much support even among republicans for that strategy. >> if this shutdown stretches on, obviously this delegation represents more federal workers than anywhere else. rep. connolly: that's true, but we want to stress federal employees exist throughout the country. you know, the bulk of federal employees, in fact, exist far beyond the beltway. so -- 80%. while yes, we represent a big cluster, and it's very important to the national capital r

congressman mac thornberry on "sunday morning futures." >> well, there was a lot of concern in the middleartly because we have not completely finished eliminating isis. there's still a lot of worry that if you let up the pressure on terrorist groups, whether they are in syria, in a stand or yemen, they can spring back to life very quickly. laura: trÈs gangsta following the story from jerusalem for us. hi, trey. >> laura, president comes national security adviser john bolton wrapping up a meeting with prime minister benjamin netanyahu where he told the israelis united it will not be pulling troops out of syria as quickly as expected aired on sunday telling the group of reporters the trump administration will wait for assurances about the state of u.s. by kurdish fighters. critics of president trump said he was abandoning the kurds after his recent decision on syria. adding that isis will also be completely defeated before the united states withdraws. trump administration official said over the weekend part of the visit to jerusalem was meant to ensure the israelis president trump will not

congressman thornberry said the department of defense is not in the business of building walls and hasd with the president on that front. we have done extensive reporting on what we are going to hear local mayors and officials and they are just trying to squash the stereotype depicted in washington on what is happening there. heavy security. they call el paso the safest city in america. they want to convey that is not a lawless part of america. host: what about other members of congress district's are actually on the border in texas? guest: you so one example congressman will heard who has the largest swath of the u.s. mexico border in his district. he cited with democrats the other day in voting for a bill to get the government back open and then maybe address border security. he is a republican who has broken with the president will times and he's not in support of letting hundreds of thousands of federal workers go unpaid. and what's ironic about this is the fact that this partial is resultingutdown in a lot of key services like the tsa where they see more terrorist come through ver

. >> jake sherman, we know congressman like will herd and matt thornberry, they're not on the same page with president trump. what else do we know about republican support there? even support among some of these other congressman who represent constituents along the border? >> reporter: i think we can say broadly speaking at this point that talks between the white house and congress have broken down. i mean, storming out of a meeting, whichever side you take, 20 days into a shutdown indicates that there's not ample progress being made. so it seems at this point from the people i talked to in the white house and on capitol hill that the president really has one option at this point. because given that democrats do not want this wall and many republicans as you noted don't want the wall. the president really is looking like he's going to go out on his own and he's going to do this by executive order, declare a state of emergency. he has a menu of options available to him. it's not clear that those will come to fruition given an expected court challenge from various quarters of the country

republican max thornberry said don't do that. i don't know his exact quote but he said, i don't know, we have to address it, but this is not a department of defense thing. there is some republican resistance to it. >> there is a lot of republican resistance to this idea of the president using emergency powers. remember, it was republicans who were arguing that the president -- former president obama went too far in using his executive powers to deal with immigration. so now you have basically president trump saying he's going to go ahead and go around congress to do what he wants to do. so there are some fundamental issues on whether this power the president has should be curtailed by congress. the question is will republicans stand up and say this isn't the right thing to do if they believe that. >> the small issue of the constitution. president's supposed to go through congress for funding for priorities. we'll see. a lot of those norms have been disposed of. >> break down. >> will it happen again? >> it does get them out of th

you mentioned mack thornberry. >> right. >> i think he's opposed to that. by the way, the ultra conservative in the house freedom caucus, an ally of president trump, told my colleague that he's skeptical that he's not fond of declaring a national emergency. he thinks it should be a last resort. he still prefers there be a congressional solution at this point. >> i would assume that small government people should be shared -- i mean rand paul and the libertarian wing of the gop, stephanie, national emergency being declared willy-nilly is something that drives big government. >> it creates a very dangerous precedent for what's to come. and i also think that we have to remember that for every taxpayer dollar that the federal government spends, there is a constituency that relies on that dollar. there is not $5 billion worth of money hanging around to put towards this wall. there's also not a willingness, even amongst republicans in the senate, to want to find that money and put it towards the wall. so -- >> is there a point, stephanie, where democrats -- >> go

mack thornberry, the republican chairman of the -- now the ranking member of the armed services committeeed president obama not to declare an emergency and divert military items to this emergency. this is a challenge. there is no doubt about it. it is a challenge we ought to work together to make the borders secure. but it is not a national emergency any more than it was a national emergency during the campaign when the president said we were being invaded by this large group of people marching up from the south. >> yeah. >> this is a device the president is using. but the real problem here is the president is using what republicans have done before. they did it for the affordable care act. they did it under bill clinton when he refused to cut education as much as he wanted to. they have taken government employees hostage and taken people who rely on government on a daily basis hostage to get their way. that's not democracy. that's dictatorship. >> congressman, is it possible speaker pelosi and leader schumer misplayed their hand on wednesday when they refused by all reports to even count

week, on this program, we spoke with one of your colleague s on the house side, congressman mak thornberry on foreign affairs and here is what he said on the current situation listen to this. >> for years, way before president obama was elected, the border patrol experts said you need a combination of things. you need physical barriers, you need people and you need technology. all three of them. so i was struck this week when speaker pelosi said this is a moral issue. we already have some sort of barrier across 30% of the border , to go to 40% is a moral issue? it just tells me this is politic s and the disappointing thing is the country, the best interest of the country do not seem to be the first consideration. it's all about political positioning. maria: and senator we into that nancy pelosi has voted for border wall, border security twice before barack obama has, others have as well, senator schumer, and yet now, when president trump wants to do it, she says it's immoral, even though we already have the wall and 30%. your reaction to this because we know that 800,000 government employe

i was surprised over the last few days to see republican representative thornberry who is a senior-most armed services and will hurd, the representative from texas as well, who covers actually about 40% of the 2,000 walls so over 800 miles both come out against the wall. both republicans, both well respected and so how do we square this circle? i know we want to make it republican versus democrat but you're talking about the head of military services and the one who actually covers more than any other congress person with the wall, both coming out again. what do they know that we don't? >> well you know, i think what it is, i think what we know as border patrol agents that they don't and that is that the wall works, and i think something you said kind of touched on the basis of this whole argument is republican versus democrat. i think that's, i mean i know that's how everybody sees it obviously the republican and the democrats see it that way. i think that's the problem is they're looking at this based on what the person sitting next to them is saying and they need to look at this for

the country somewhere or somewhere else around washington. >> sandra: all right, congressman mac thornberry for coming on "america's newsroom." >> mac: thank you. >> eric: deadly attack that has occurred overseas. and officials have come from dozens of people were killed and another brace and tell of an attack. that one on a military base they are. coming up, we will have a live report on this new development from the pentagon. ♪ hey, saved you a seat. this round is on me. hey, can you spot me? come on in! find your place, today, with silver sneakers... included with many medicare plans. call the number on the screen now or visit getsilversneakers.com and the army taught me a lot about commitment. which i apply to my life and my work. at comcast we're commited to delivering the best experience possible, by being on time everytime. and if we are ever late, we'll give you a automatic twenty dollar credit. my name is antonio and i'm a technician at comcast. we're working to make things simple, easy and awesome. >> eric: right now one bombshell after the other after a trial of mexican accused d

republicans are going to matt thornberry the house arms services committee, republican, saying he isspending pentagon money. he is going to need a win and something he can declare victory on. things are so broken and that's what jared kushner is doing. what can we do to make it look like a win? things are so frayed because of the first two years of his presidency it makes this all the harder. what would be a win at this point? i guess the other question i have is if the president went back and was forced back into conventional thinking then i have to accept a compromise. he could have had 1.7, maybe $2 billion in wall funding and i don't know if nancy pelosi would bring that to the floor now and that was when republicans controlled the house a couple of weeks ago. can he eaven get that now? will she bring that to the floor. >> >> that's a question that democrats don't have to answer because of the government shutdown and that's why we're hearing about the pain this is inflicting on federal workers and it seems that it's broadly supported let's re-open the government while we have the

joining me now is shadow foreign secretary labour's emily thornberry. people who went to see her find exactly what was going to happen. there were leaders of other political parties. the problem is she doesn't have a plan b, she's not even prepared to consider it. but jeremy said was, sure i will come and see you that you really need to stop threatening us leaving with no deal and he wasn't prepared to even do that. that's not a lot of good will and indeed, like do that. that's not a lot of good willand indeed, like a do that. that's not a lot of good will and indeed, like a day later we are back on i am going to talk to my cabinet ministers, i'm going to talk to my backbenchers, i'm not going to reach out. it was a little bit of a pr exercise. you think so? i'm afraid so. when people say he met with hammers and his brother, people founded bewildering he would not meet the prime minister. if we want to get on with real negotiations... how do you respond to that specific on? we respond to the specific crisis now, how do we get through now, why do we get

we know smith is there and i don't know if thornberry will stay. generally they have not worked together as well and moving forward on bipartisanship but we will have to see. adam smith's remarks that the pep rally i call it insight you pep rally are going to be moderated by the fact that he is constrained by the folks within the committee, cooper's and others in the folks on armed services were basically want to sustain this network. the thing should happen is that mr. trump needs to put together a couple of pieces that the monstrously advance the arms-control agenda and that would mean he doesn't necessarily extended right now but use to start extension as an incentive to push for modernization and the second thing to put together a package whether the russians agree with that or not but put together a package and put together a story on nonstrategic nuclear forces of great disparity and why we should be thinking about that as the next steps in making it safer. >> thank you, john. rebecca. >> i think in order to -- rebuild and i don't think the c

i do not know if thornberry will stay. they have not worked together as well as the house armed services committee that we will have to see. rally -- the anti-new pep rally-- anti-nuke will have to be moderated by the fact that he is going to be constrained by the folks both within his committee and those on armed services who want to sustain this effort. the third thing i think should happen is mr. trump needs to put together a couple of pieces that demonstrably advance the arms-control agenda and that would mean, i don't think he necessarily should extend it now start should use a new extension as an incentive for continued strong support for modernization. and the second thing he should do is put together a package. on ourether a story strategic nuclear forces and why we should be thinking about that as the next steps in making the world safer. frank: thank you, john. rebecca. rebecca: in order to rebuild, and i don't think consensus is achievable but i do think we need a coalition and i think it will need to be rebuilt

in response to that letter, which was led by myself and congressman thornberry, google didn't answerthe question and maintained our children are prohibited from using youtube but in reality, youtube has countless panels targeting children like toy reviews and nursery rhymes and many others. with that in mind, i would like to work with the ftc to make you are complying with protected and wondered if you to what's going to be on the investigation of youtube, what you are doing to end this practice of data collection which is necessarily a violation. >> every time we become aware of something, sometimes through our own efforts, we initiate law enforcement investigations and that's the primary way that we are pursuing that. we also engage in advocacy and consumer business education. >> i would love to work with you. i think there are other legislative solutions that we can pursue . >> we be happy to work with you. >> i was contacted by a constituent, a lincoln high school student who educated me about something called synthetics, i don't know if you're familiar with it. skins are virtual

i do not know if thornberry will stay. generally they have not worked as well together as the senate armed services committee in bipartisanship, but we will see. adam smith's remarks at the nuke cap rally are going to have to be moderated by the fact that he is going to be constrained by the folks both within his committee, the coopers and others, and the folks on armed services who want to sustain this effort. the third thing i think should puten is mr. trump needs to together a couple of pieces that demonstrably advance the arms-control agenda, and that would mean -- i don't necessarily think he should extend a right now, but he should use a new start extension as an incentive for continued strong support for modernization. and the second thing he should do is put together a package. whether the russians are going to agree with it or not, put together a package, a story on nonstrategic nuclear forces, the great disparity, and why we should be thinking about that as the next steps in making the world safer. frank: thank y

you can listen to mac thornberry, that republican chair of the house armed services committee.se of presidential authority. republicans used to care about that. we want on a compromise, and passing republican bills as a compromise. that is what we have done to reopen the government. >> bill: here's another compromise. maybe it's not 5 billion. 1.3 or 1.6 on the table right now, meet him halfway. call at 2.5 and everything goes back the way it was. >> we already have. you may have noticed that we passed 1.3 billion last year. they haven't spent it. then there was smart border security measures. that gets you to 2.9. you are over halfway. this is a manufactured crisis, and that government should not be shut down. >> sandra: 's hold on. obviously, that didn't include money for specifically spending on a barrier at the southern border, but you are responding to republican comments. go back to president obama talking about an actual humanitarian crisis on the border. underscores the need to drop the politics and fix our immigration once and for all. why do democrats keep talking abo

. >> interesting texas representative thornberry, texas representative hurd yourself all saw they don'tin appropriations have you seen -- from the white house, where they want to spend 5.6 billion? because what i have been told is that the appropriations committee in the senate nor the house has actually seen a plan on how they want to appropriate. >> absolutely, i saw the omb letter sent off last week end negotiating, with all due respect that is not the way we do appropriations, now today i will be releasing about 3 or 4 pages of specific recommendations for border patrol for cbp officers ice immigration judges coast goordz so we can secure border we cannot play defense in one-yard line called u.s. mexico border we got to extended our defense our perimeters, and put money to work with mks southern border with guatemala people working with central american countries this capital we spend 18 billion dollars border security on u.s. mexico border 18 billion, about three years ago shifted over 80 million dollars to help mexico secure the southern border did you know with 80 million dollars

this week i spoke with max thornberry.s the message of the middle east after the president said he's pulling troops out of syria? >> well, there was a lot of concerned in the middle east, partly because we have not completely finished eliminating isis, partly because the kurds who have been doing a lot of the fighting with us and for us had been allies and if we pull the rug on them everybody else is wondering if we are going to pull the rug on others as well. and thirdly, it pretty much turns syria over the iran, that's more dangerous for israel and gulf states. the initial announcement by the president caused a lot of concern. maria: joining me right now to talk more about that is retired four-star general fox news senior strategists analyst general jack keane, always pleasure to see you, thank you for joining us. i know that the president does not want to be fighting wars forever. i get that and the american people get that but pulling troops out of syria hit our allies in the middle east hard and now it feels like secr

matt thornberry on that over the weekend. >> we have been very successful in beating back isis. i think the president deserves a lot of credit for that success because he took the shackles off of our military and they've done a lot of good work. but that job will not be finished forever. we have to at least have some presence to keep the pressure on. >> bill: i don't think you disagree with that. what does that look like do you believe? >> i would not disagree with the fact that strategically the u.s. should be present in the region ready to intervene any time isis would emerge neither this part of syria or other parts of the middle east or in yemen or other places. the absolute real guarantee is when we defeat isis, to make sure that the forces that will be taking over from isis are friendly and are allies and we have relationship with them. the biggest mistake in iraq we withdrew in 2011 without making sure that iran's militia won't take over from us. we should not repeat that mistake in syria. >> bill: a commander-in-chief says we won't fight these wars forever. how to wind i

congressman thornberry said the department of defense is not in the business of building walls and has parted with the president on that front. we have done extensive reporting on what we are going to hear local mayors and officials and they are just trying to squash the stereotype depicted in washington on what is happening there. heavy security. they call el paso the safest city in america. they want to convey that is not a lawless part of america. host: what about other members of congress district's are actually on the border in texas? guest: you so one example congressman will heard who has the largest swath of the u.s. mexico border in his district. he cited with democrats the other day in voting for a bill to get the government back open and then maybe address border security. he is a republican who has broken with the president will times and he's not in support of letting hundreds of thousands of federal workers go unpaid. and what's ironic about this is the fact that this partial is resultingutdown in a lot of key services like the tsa where they see more terrorist come throu