go to thrallly, do this -- go to thrallly, do this, don't let them know you're a communist. if you're charged with being a communist, say it's red-baiting paranoia. call it mccarthy im, right? deny that you're an actual communist. and they would go to these rallies, and they would do that. they'd say, we're not communists, and the progressives and liberals would say, they're not communists, and the anticommunist would be the red-baiting rep ro baits, the paranoiding toly diets and cavemen. so the dupes were any popular support. to try to get larger popular support for their cause, progred liberals. so that's why i looked at this. an important point i want to make on partisanship. they didn't always have success, and i appreciate the chance to say this to a conservative audience in particular. there were a lot of good anticommunist liberals and anticommunist democrats who weren't duped, arthur schlesinger jr. wrote a piece for life magazine in 1946 which at that point was probably the largest circulation in all of america. and schlesinger said this: communists have succeeded