we get kids throucond, thd to 12th graderough the end hool. we al run xtof family programs. get campers of all ages from newborns up to grandparents that will come with their families. those are four day programs. we have all kinds of people at camp towanda . >> we run programs in the summer. we have a one week session, a two week session, three weeks and 4 weeks for children to choose from from fourth grade to 11th grade. the juniors and seniors can come for an eight week long session. those are focused around different community events. we also have the counselor training program. then, in addition, we serve a lot of staff who come in the summer. we have about 130 staff members with us who help us build and create this american -- amazing experience for the summer. >> our community is so diverse. both of you are jewish camps i'm wondering if you can talk a little bit about how you are a jewish camp. >> we want to provide a low barrier to entry. one slight difference between our camps is that we are not affiliated with the movement. we are non-denominational. we really try