>> i'm telling you right now, i'd never been to tiffin, iowa. never travelled to tiffin, iowa. let's talk a little bit about jodi. >> all that i can tell you about jodi huisentruit is that she has become a central part of my life since i've been incarcerated. it's been something that i've been, for many years, hoping will be resolved so that that stigma can be taken away from me so that i can -- so that i can rest. >> jackson never denies to me that he was a rapist, but he insists he is not a murderer. >> it's unfortunate that people try to take rape and murder and put it all together as one -- as one big, heinous act and say that if you had did this, you would have done this. >> i was surprised at how forthcoming tony jackson was about the rapes that he committed. tony told me that just prior to the rapes in 1997, he was mourning a breakup with one longtime girlfriend and wrestling with the loss of a baby with a current one. with these counts of criminal sexual conduct, what happened? >> when people ask me that question, what happened, all i can say is that i was not myself. e