i want to go back to the tig ma. i disagree with quentin. kids are smart. know they are poor.giving everyone a free lunch is not doing them favors will take away funds like a better classroom experience with which we need to work on and focus well and pull them out of poverty instead of making them feel better about being in poverty. >> of course they know they are poor. they are afraid of being laughed at and kids can be cruel. if you take away that visibility and make them one of several. >> you can't take it away quentin. >> no free lunch will not do that. >> yes, you have. >> and no. >> key is spending government money in order to make people, and make kids feel better and it may or may not work. >> yeah, this happens. >> it is one school, try it. >> this happens to all of our entitlement programs and get bigger. look at medicare and medicaid . the number of enrollment is great low expanded. one thing to help people who need assistance. but when you start using taxpayer money to help people who don't need it. >> it is happening in three states and not just one school. but