tiktok. you call it the people's bid. why is your consortium the right owners if bytedance says it will divest? frank: i think we are the right buyers because we have put all the pieces together. we have the funding. we have worked through all of the legal issues. we have a full offered front of bytedance. most importantly we have the clean american tech stack to move the user base over to and we do not need or want the chinese algorithm. the algorithm is something china is very beholden to and has said clearly they will not going to be selling it. we do not need it or want it. as a matter of fact we are the leading bidder right now. caroline: we are seeing share price reaction from rivals. from your reading of what is happening, doesn't look to be going in the way you like it to proceed? would you like to delay the proceedings to go forward with it? frank: we would like to buy u.s. tiktok. that is what we would like to see as the end result and move the user base to this clean american stack

entities, tiktok u.s.s, this is in regulating the period et cetera tate algorithm that tiktok u.s. can use. co was doing everything it could to preserve access to tiktok and the united states and recognition americans enjoy expressing themselves and building community on this site. >> i have a question. justice gorsuch had asked your friends on the other side whether thadministration on january 20 could extend the deadline. what's your position? >> it keys up a statutory interptaon question of whether they can be ension after the time. ford investiture is less. -- the time period for divestiture is lapsed. the court maestro with this decision in the holy frontier case which did recognize the ability can extension after laps likth. >> so it is your position that they could? >> w not wanted in the ground because it n present here and i'm not prepared to take a position on that i want to emphasize my friends have pointed to january 19 or nine days from now as a mome when tiktok might go dark. hoping to profit

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whether tiktok u.s. has the ability to alter the algorithm, whether divess feasible, with respect to the algorithm, i think we are simply talking past each other we don't dispute that tiktok u.s. might engage in some functions in the united states to customize the algorithm for u.s. audience, the thing we are worried abouts long before that over in chinahere bite dance is developinghe source code, creating the basic backbone and funiong of the system and is thening out the algorithm for use by the ris subsidiaries in their home country. we areot seeking to regulate any activity, insteadhat congress is doing closeff vulnerability of prc access abro. with respect to theos feasibiliy c divesture my friends have said it would have been impossible to do this within 270 days. at the outset obviously there's no iert impediment to divesting a social media company. we just saw elonusk buy x or twitter in about six months ofr completion and even with respect to this particular company, i thinky friends are not wel

on tiktok. that's not the concern. con is that they are regu a particular channel of communication. i just wonder if there's precedent for thate of thing. thing. they are not saying will restrict this content and that they are just saying we're going be in position will be can control what happens, whether it's based on expression, or >> i disagree and if you take a step bnd look at this record i thi it is quite clear it is foced on both current and potential future content on tiktok. tiktok and corporate. here y't have just an act that is based on speakers and speech. triggered by speech. focus on single speech of tiktok, inc. >> justice tma justice alito? >> what i congress, if there were nothing in this act about content moderation or covert manipulation, what i was just about preventing what congress viewed as an enormously powerful, popular application from gathering an arsenal of information abo american citizend they said this is the worst offender and we're going to require divestiture b

tiktok users in america are migrating _ jobs. tiktok users in america are migrating to _ jobs. to a _ jobs. tiktok users in america are migrating to a chinese i jobs. tiktok users in america l are migrating to a chinese note app are migrating to a chinese note app called read note with the threat of a band days away. the users call themselves tech not —— tick tock refugees making rednote the most popular app on apple itunes. it has around 300 million monthly users and looks like a combination of instagram and tiktok. bad news for some starbucks customers, the coffee chain will no longer allow people to use its facilities in north america without purchasing something. for years it had allowed people to linger unused toilets even they did not make a purchase. changes, which will take effect from january 27 a part of a strategy to tackle slowing sales. starbucks says there is no change to its policy in the uk with its facilities can be used without a purchase. and before we go a reminder of events in south korea where investigators have arrested the impeached president. mryoon hav

it is not just tiktok.lot more information being collected by other companies associated with china on americans in addition to tiktok as well. caroline: 1-10, give us how hard it would be. technically speaking, how effective do you think this can be? >> it can be very effective. a good illustration is something happening in the payment security industry where credit cards, how you are paying online and how the security of your credit card information is being governed, payment securities has introduced a new standard which ensures come on a weekly basis, it verifies no unauthorized trackers or any software technology pieces are collecting credit card information without authorization. a similar push can help prevent tiktok or other data collection being done on americans without authorization. caroline: the supreme court matter is a matter of law and interpretation. there is politicking amongst whether or not january 19 will be pushed out post a new administration in the white house. how would you articula

that is integral to tiktok. china will have to have a say in what happens next if that includes a development but that is not what china wants and not what bytedance wants to see. tom: we will see how it unfolds. an interesting twist in the story as we count down to the supreme court decision on the fate of tiktok u.s. annabelle, thank you. they eu is considering expanding its investigation into whether x broke content moderation rules. elon musk's company is accused of failing to tackle illegal content and disinformation. the top digital officer told bloomberg they are looking at whether a livestream conversation between musk and germany's far-right leader gave a political candidate an unfair advantage. >> x, the investigation has been going on for one year so it is quite broad, the scope that the commission is investigating. we are assessing if the scope is large enough. also, when it comes to the upcoming german elections, that we are covering the risks on that. tom: european scrutiny on x and musk continues.

we start though with tiktok. the company behind the popular social media platform has described reports that it could sell its us operations to elon musk as "pure fiction". there are just five days to go before a new law comes into effect in the us which would force tiktok to either sell its us operations or be banned in the country. in the meantime, american social media users have been migrating to a chinese—made app called rednote, which became the most—downloaded product on apple's us app store on monday. from singapore, our business reporter mariko oi has the latest. it would have been a fascinating twist in this ongoing story, but tiktok has told the bbc that it can't be expected to respond to pure fiction, referring to that bloomberg report which said that chinese officials might be considering selling tiktok to elon musk. meanwhile, some tiktok users in the united states have been migrating to another chinese app called rednote, which looks a bit like a combination of tiktok and instagram. and its popular

who use tiktok are going to go to find the content they loved on tiktok.horts and sometimes on snap. we hosted a panel on this topic earlier this week, we think there will be a supreme court order tomorrow morning, just a short order. our guess is that the majority of the court is going to vote to uphold the law, therefore it goes into effect on the 19th and i don't think tiktok goes dark on that day, the service will degrade over time, it will removed there the app store and upgrades won't be allowed. a bit of a shocking event over the last couple of events, shocking to investors. it's the law of the land and i think the supreme court is going to uphold it. >> it's interesting, because as we know the apples and the googles as the world they'll have to back away from it immediately. people might still be able to use it? >> that's my best guess, i'm not sure. the law was -- this was not -- this was not quick legislation and this wasn't something that didn't -- this legislation had very strong bipartisan support and the arguments that tiktok was making in fr

tiktok, i can express myself on tiktok.are worried about china hacking our information -- if they are worried about china hacking our information, they already hacked, they look at everything. we have voice for america. we should not be afraid of free-speech. fox news, that's more dangerous to democracy than any other outlet. and even some people can say msnbc is disinformation. some people can say cnn disinformation. no. i am sorry to say, but i think a peck is the push -- i think aipac is the push behind this, to b what's going onan because we don't hear it on many media. i think it's a great place to express your believes. they can attack us with credit card, using guess, buying groceries. they know everything about us. i am not worried about taking my personal information. everyone knows our personal information right now and that's what i want to say. you should not been tiktok. -- ban tiktok. maria: one of the main arguments from the government yesterday was that this isn't about speech at all, that this is about nati

ban of tiktok is looming for many tiktok users, there's a new alternative. it's called red note, and there's some irony here. tiktok is facing a ban because of its concerns that it is owned by a chinese company, and that could provide sensitive user information to the chinese government. red note is also owned by a chinese company and is often described as the chinese tiktok users tell us, though they appreciate how easy it is to use. and since most current users speak mandarin, they appreciate how easy it is to add subtitles to the posts. let's bring in our business and tech reporter scott budman. so quick question here. why would people jump to another chinese app? wouldn't they just jump to instagram or something else? yeah, it's funny to me. roger that. they call it the chinese tiktok. that's really what we're talking about here is tiktok's identity. yes, most of them will jump to places like instagram, but a lot of people are saying, hey, we want to try another chinese app. not really aware that that is the one reason that tiktok might go away. and as w

tiktok, i can express myself on tiktok.are worried about china hacking our information -- if they are worried about china hacking our information, they already hacked, they look at everything. we have voice for america. we should not be afraid of free-speech. fox news, that's more dangerous to democracy than any other outlet. and even some people can say msnbc is disinformation. some people can say cnn disinformation. no. i am sorry to say, but i think a peck is the push -- i think aipac is the push behind this, to b what's going onan because we don't hear it on many media. i think it's a great place to express your believes. they can attack us with credit card, using guess, buying groceries. they know everything about us. i am not worried about taking my personal information. everyone knows our personal information right now and that's what i want to say. you should not been tiktok. -- ban tiktok. maria: one of the main arguments from the government yesterday was that this isn't about speech at all, that this is about nati

tiktok. so this is going to have huge ripple effects in populations who do not usually pay attention to politics if it does actually go into effect. >> fair enough. all right. thank you all for being here on this friday, i appreciate it. have a good weekend. thanks to all for you for joining us as well. back at home. and do have a wonderful weekend. i'm kasie hunt. don't go anywhere. cnn news central starts right now. >> apocalyptic images out of los angeles as new fires break out and the death toll rises this morning. an estimated 10,000 structures damaged or destroyed. >> also today, donald trump learns his sentence. >> a judge will hand down the sentence to the president elect, marking the end of the road of the hush money case in new york. >> the supreme court and tiktok know neil gorsuch is not posting a trendy cat video. >> as far as we know. but very shortly, the country's highest court could weigh in on whether a congressional ban on tiktok can take effect in just nine days. i'm john

where does tiktok stand at the — true or not. where does tiktok stand at the moment? - true or not.ment? could i true or not. where does tiktok. stand at the moment? could the supreme court delete this ruling? it supreme court delete this rulin: ? . ., supreme court delete this rulin: ? u, . supreme court delete this rulin: ? u, ., _, ruling? it could and incoming president _ ruling? it could and incoming president from _ ruling? it could and incoming president from asked - ruling? it could and incoming president from asked them l ruling? it could and incoming| president from asked them to ruling? it could and incoming - president from asked them to do so with the theory that once he is in office he could put together some sort of deal. i think that is unlikely to work for the supreme court because there is no legal authority to pause and otherwise valid act of congress because the incoming president finds it inconvenient that comes into effect before his inauguration. and how it is presented until now, i expect the supreme court sometime this week to uphold the law at least decline

even tiktok executives, you would make a lot of money if you sold tiktok and we get away from a lot ofes. who are the buyers? anyone who can come up with $80 billion and satisfy the u.s. there are not a lot of companies in that category. some companies like walmart or microsoft looked at tiktok and decided it was out of reach. we will see who can pull together a package, but i think the best shifter -- i think defense structure -- divestiture is almost habitable now. caitriona: the united states has increased its reward for information leading to the increase -- to the arrest of venezuela's president nicolas maduro to $25 million. the announcement came as mr. maduro was sworn in for a third six-year term as president. venezuela's political opposition was condemned, saying its candidate was the real winner of last year's election. the u.s. and european union recognize the opposition is the president-elect. correspondent: nicholas medeiros at his inauguration with mark the start of a peaceful new era, but venezuela has really been anything but peaceful in recent months since the disputed

there are buyers lining up tiktok.rty group, kevin riley of shark tank fame and so forth, and bytedancejust shark tank fame and so forth, and bytedance just needs to pick up the phone.— pick up the phone. how satisfied _ pick up the phone. how satisfied are _ pick up the phone. how satisfied are you - pick up the phone. how satisfied are you that i pick up the phone. how satisfied are you that putting an app into the hands of a very rich person like we have seen with elon musk, we have seen some changes now made by mark zuckerberg, how confident are you that that will be a better situation than what we see now? they are within the reach of us law. the ccp is not within the reach of us law, and neither is bytedance. that is the critical difference. that is why almost 370 members of congress, on a bipartisan basis, acted the way they did because this is a unique national security threat. �* ., unique national security threat. ., ., threat. before i let you go, we know that _ threat. before i let you go, we know that 19 —

, and keeps tiktok running.o whether or not there will be an enforcement issue, meaning the legislature makes the laws, but it's the department of justice that actually enforces the laws, so will that actually be from an enforcement perspective, put into effect on january 20th, one day after the ban is scheduled to take place? that's a big question. and ben, to your point, there's a lot of individuals who use tiktok as their job. they use it for their source of income. and so we heard a lot of individuals speaking on that point that it would negatively impact them from an economic perspective. but what where we stand right now, it seems like the supreme court's analysis is all about the national security argument. >> now, i know i'm probably simplifying a very complicated issue here, but why hasn't tiktok just done what the u.s. has been asking for after all of this time, and then just continued operating? >> so to sell it, you mean to sell it to another individual that's not a government entity? well, there hav

the tiktok lawyer said he did not even think it was possible to divest or separate tiktok from the ownerytedance. it could take years if it is even possible. at the same time, the solicitor general said she thought maybe the chinese government was playing a game of chicken and mite at the last minute float some alternative. the tiktok lawyer shot themselves a little in the foot in the sense that he said this is really complicated. as your last guest was just saying, essentially the u.s. tiktok is bytedance and the chinese government is stepping in and confirming what numbers of congress thought a year ago and years ago, which is there is this chinese government control over a u.s. social media company. it is hard to see how you can do that, certainly not by the 19th if at all. mike: how would this fit into the broader exchange relationship between washington and beijing over matters including trade and other technology related security issues? is this something china can offer as a bargaining chip as trump takes office? sarah: it is pretty savvy. they are mindful of the influence elon mu

phones that have tiktok on. so you would have essentially a lame duck app, still a very powerful app on your phones for at least a certain amount of time. while the two sides still try to figure it out, and maybe somebody comes in and buys tiktok from bytedance. at this point, we're talking about a whole lot of money because this is an extremely valuable company. you've been doing this a long time. you ever seen anything like it? not really. it's because of the nature of what both sides agree on. hey, it's dangerous to have a chinese owned company. we do a lot of business with china and other countries. so you really don't normally see this and you'll be watching it for us? absolutely. scott, thanks very much. you bet. have a great weekend. in the video streaming arena, a new sports bundle is bust today. disney, warner bros. discovery and fox sports announced they're disbanding venue sports before it even launched. initial plans for venue sports were revealed last february, with hopes of creating a single stream

tiktok creators are tiktoked off, like this woman. >> there are a lot of good, honest hardworking people on the money they make from tiktok to survive from day-to-day. i'm just an old woman from east texas, but i've got sense enough to know if a foreign country wants to steal our secrets, they don't need a social media app to do it. >> stephen: that's right, foreign countries don't need a social media app to steal our nation's secrets. they just need a membership to mar-a-lago. [laughter and applause] on friday, this past friday, tiktok went to the supreme court to try to shut down the shutdown but it doesn't seem like the court was all that convinced, even after tiktok's lawyer downplayed the idea that china could manipulate content for propaganda purposes. >> look, everybody manipulate content, there are lots of people who think cnn, fox news, "the wall street journal," "the new york times" are manipulate in their content. that is core protected speech. >> stephen: okay, and also, clearly the justices have never been on tiktok. it's just a bunch of silly videos and helpful recipes, lik

in september, when he said the voters, go out the vote for me and i will protect tiktok, tiktok williven that other countries have a ready band tiktok, how might that have an effect on the case in the us?— in the us? the us very much does its own _ in the us? the us very much does its own thing _ in the us? the us very much does its own thing and - in the us? the us very much does its own thing and now l in the us? the us very much i does its own thing and now that the us is doing selling totally different and that it is governed by a technocracy, was a very close allies with mask and potentially, they are advising him not to use the first amendment take down tick—tock. because champ is notoriously inconsistent and might one day do the same thing the us tech companies that he has not pleased by. facebook has not pleased by. facebook has now a little come into trump's good books because they were on the phone to trump during the election is trying to get on side but that might change during the next couple of years i can see why tech companies in the us are worried that tiktok will se

the ideas on tiktok.nt to stop tiktok. what it wanted to do was stop china's control of tiktok. he was very skeptical there was a speech right here. there were justices that did recognize there were speech rights a longing to tiktok usa and the users of tiktok that they questioned, for example, justice elena kagan questioned whether the speech restrictions were really substantial because the law itself was targeted at bytedance and its two vestige. reporter: where the justice is more skeptical of one side or the other? did they tip their hand? >> i think they were tough on both sides. but i think what resounded most with the justices were the second interest that the government offered for the law, the collection of the private information of american citizens. justice brett kavanaugh for example said it is a huge concern now and in the future. the government pointed out that private data could be used by china in the future to blackmail future cia officers, it could be used to try to turn certain america

and it's a lot like tiktok in more ways than one. let's bring in our business and tech reporter scott budman. okay, scott, go ahead and tell us about red note. yeah, the more things change, audrey, apparently the more they stay the same. r red note, interestingly enough, owned by a chinese company just like tiktok. and so that's part of the problem. but also part of the interest. apparently people are going on red note and they're subtitling their their posts, which is thoughtful to people on the other end who may not speak either mandarin chinese or english. and there's a lot of back and forth, and it's very much like tiktok in terms of good feelings dances, but also, you know, giving our data to a chinese company and that has people worried. obviously, this is happening in the overall shadow of the supreme court deciding whether or not to let tiktok live here in the united states. okay, so i know you got to speak with the texas tech expert about all of this today. what are they telling you? well, so. right. you know, they point out

keep tiktok.'s trying to do is create some political leverage and say, well, the supreme court may be against tiktok, but i will be the saviour. and when the ban comes in, which would be the 19th, that would be the day after he comes in as president. so he could potentially be tiktok�*s saviour and redeem tiktok on behalf of the youth population, which he now believes tiktok was very important for getting that audience to him. of course the inauguration of president—elect donald trump will be on the 20th of january. it was the biggest rape trial in french history. gisele pelicot waived her right to anonymity and became a global icon. dominque pelicot was found guilty of drugging and raping his wife, and inviting 50 men into their home to abuse her while she slept. gisele's daughter caroline darian stood alongside her mother in court and told her father that he would "die alone like a dog." she believes that her father also drugged and abused her. she's spoken to the bbc in herfirst broadcast inter

tiktok users are migrating to an app called rednote.ok refugees has made rednote the most downloaded app on apple's app store. it is popular with young people in china, taiwan and mandarin speaking countries. it has around 300 million monthly users and looks like a combination of tiktok and instagram. bad news for some — style ducks customers, it will no longer allow it to use its facilities in north america without buying something. it had for years to allow people to linger and use its toilet evenif to linger and use its toilet even if they did not make a purchase. the changes, from the 27th of january, purchase. the changes, from the 27th ofjanuary, is part purchase. the changes, from the 27th of january, is part of a strategy to tackle slowing sales. and before we go, let's remind you of our top story today on bbc news, in south korea investigators have arrested the president, the first to be arrested. the impeach president is under investigation for insurrection by trying to impose martial law. he is now being interrogated at the a

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and the users of tiktok.y question for example justice elena dagen question whether that speech impediments or restrictions were substantial because the law itself, she said really was targeted at bite dance and its divest cure. >> were the judges more consistskeptical on one side ore other? >> they were very tough on both sides. but i think what resound the most with the justices was the second interest that the government offered for the law, the collection of the private information of american citiz citizens. justice brett kavanaugh for example, he said that's a huge concern now and in the future as the government pointed out that data -- private data could be used by china in the future to blackmail, future c.i.a. officers. it could be used to try to turn certain americans into spies. and so i think when you looked over all of the argues, that was something that may persuade a majority to very much uphold this law. >> and bobby, if that happens, if this law is upheld, is there any indication with ickton

there's really no one here that in my opinion knows how to run tiktok the way tiktok runs. >> reportertice department insists with its ties to china, tiktok poses a national security threat. >> china is a foreign adversary nation that looks for every opportunity it has to weaken the united states. >> reporter: tiktok's lawyer insisting. >> we absolutely resist any kind of content manipulation by china at all. >> reporter: if the law goes into effect, it would ban tiktok from app stores but not remove it from phones that already have it. justice alito today asking why users can't just take to a different app. >> i'm just wondering whether this is like some of these attachment to an old article of clothing, i really love this old shirt because i've been wearing this old shirt but i could go out and buy something exactly like that. but, no, i like the old shirt. is that what we have here. >> reporter: the supreme court could issue a preliminary block on the deadline looming nine days from now ahead of the final ruling on the arguments today. word from the court could come at any time. les

to beat tiktok. you tube shorts, those are the best companies in the world, and if they can't recreate tiktok, how is anyone else going to recreate tiktok? >> how quickly would it become defunct if you already had it on your phone. >> it would be a couple of months before people started to feel like it's deteriorating. what's going to happen is you can still use tiktok, if you downloaded it before the ban. after the ban you won't be able to download it. people will still probably create content but other content creators will start dropping off, and once they start dropping off more and more, the decay is going to decay really fast. >> our thanks to savannah sellers for that. >>> let's bring in nbc news legal analyst, danny cevallos. we are awaiting this decision from the supreme court. they were hearing uments on friday. for the most part, the justices did not seem swayed by tiktok's arguments that free speech would be violated bit potential bans. what are potential rulings we could expect? >> there

tiktok and also an attorney representing content creators that use tiktok.stices though didn't seem to buy tiktok's claim that this divest order means that they are forced to shut down. multiple justices telling tiktok it's a choice. they could divest, but they are choosing not to. >> if bytedance divested the tiktok, we wouldn't be here, right? if bytedance was willing to let you go and willing to let you take the source code with you, that would be fine, right? we would not be here. >> what this law does is it says that tiktok incorporated, if bytedance doesn't exercise a qualified divestiture, you have to go mute. you cannot speak at all -- >> no, i don't think it say that is. you're wrong about the statute being read as saying, tiktok, you have to go mute. because tiktok can continue to operate on its own algorithm, on its own terms as long as it's not associated with bytedance. >> reporter: the attorney representing tiktok's users is trying to make the case to the high court that banning tiktok would deny americans of their first amendment right to free

solicitor general and tiktok give us a creative occasion how each party will argue the case tiktok is the rights of the users. the first amendment protects the speech of foreign adversaries even if it's propaganda. they offer an alternative to a ban. disclosure of the source of material of tiktok saying it's the least restrictive alternative too address the concern the public is being misled y the way, tiktok creators hav petitioned against the ban one of the briefs, their lawyers argued it's anathema to the first amendment because it shields americans from nothing more than the disagreeable mix of ideas the justice department claims this is not a free speech issue at all they say the law targets the national security risk stemming from china's control here is how they put it. the first amendment would not have required our nation to tolerate soefsh et viet ownershg the cold war it does not require us to tolerate ownership and control of tiktok by a foreign adversary today. i'm not convinced. we didn't let the soviets control american radio stations but we did let them publish a newsp

if not tiktok would be forced to shut down. national security concerns are the primary factor behind the band. >> congress and the president were concerned that china was accessing information about tens of millions of americans, including teenagers. >> is like a double-edged sword because they have a lot of my data to get payments from tiktok. they have to have a lot of information from me, which was really scary to submit originally. but then i get emails every sunday from other companies, insurance companies, everything, saying that my data was compromised in a data leak. some like, it's not just tiktok. it's a viewer. >> i'm actually working on a video today. i went and stopped by a brand-new spa that opened up the arena. >> reporter: cara has 353,000 followers on tiktok. featuring small businesses across the bay area. >> there is still the stigma that tiktok is a dancing app for children. it has evolved to this point where it is where we are getting most of our news and how we are connecting with each other. >> reporter: h

if that algorithm that helps to tiktok what it is. you can't really slice off a separate us tiktok.t have rights. —— in an american company. they don't have the right to... and to use this platform to reach a unique american audience. we will definitely be violated if it stuck down.— definitely be violated if it stuckdown. �* . ., , ., stuck down. i'm curious what ou stuck down. i'm curious what you think _ stuck down. i'm curious what you think this _ stuck down. i'm curious what you think this would - stuck down. i'm curious what you think this would set - stuck down. i'm curious what you think this would set with | you think this would set with the president. with the government can force an app off—line or ban it or tell it needs to be sold, is a dangerous precedent? imilli needs to be sold, is a dangerous precedent? will be a very dangerous _ dangerous precedent? will be a very dangerous precedent - dangerous precedent? will be a very dangerous precedent if - dangerous precedent? will be a very dangerous precedent if the government and just said can just say the where his natio

where would tiktok users go?lysts say instagram, snapchat and youtube would likely pick up a lot of that business because they already offer short form video feeds similar to tiktok on their platforms, wolf. what's at stake? >> all right, brian todd, thanks very, very much for that report. and to our viewers, thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation ro

the government made it clear in this case that it's not about content publishing on tiktok. it's about the bytedance connections to china and it's being headquartered in beijing. the government because it ties to the chinese government and that china could use tiktok to harvest data on americans and use the act ii's -- the app to somehow so propaganda or sway public opinion in the u.s. the ownership question came up at the start and it was one of the very first that justice clarence thomas put to the lawyer representing tiktok, saying in essence are you conflating the ownership question and requirement being imposed by the government with the free speech issue you are trying to raise? are you trying to mix apples and oranges? other suggestions were that there could be other fish in the sea, users finding other platforms to take their speech. today we have seen shares of snap, snap chat, rising 9%, the most we have seen that stock jump since the end of october. so, there is a lot at stake here. vonnie: is there indication of how scotus is leaning right now? >> indications bas

keep tiktok.rying to do is create some political leverage and say, well, the supreme court may be against tiktok, but i will be the saviour. and when the ban comes in, which would be the 19th, that would be the day after he comes in as president. so he could potentially be tiktok�*s saviour and redeem tiktok on behalf of the youth population, which he now believes tiktok was very important for getting that audience to him. president—elect donald trump will be inaugurated on the 18th of january. temperatures in a hamlet in northern scotland dropped to —18.9c on friday — the uk's coldest january night in 15 years. it is the coldest january overnight temperature since 2010, when they dropped below —15c several times at locations across the uk, including —22.3c on 8 january in altna harra. across the uk, temperatures were widely around “4 to —10c on saturday morning, with some freezing fog in parts of the midlands and eastern england. check out our temperatures on our website as well. stay warm. a maj

after tiktok could be banned.o you think tiktok was also making its arguments to donald trump? and is there anything if we don't get, you know, if trump comes in, is there anything he can do between now and when the court has to make its decision that can change this course? >> eamon. this is the most insane part of the hearing. brett kavanaugh literally had to ask an open court, what if the new president doesn't follow the law? because we live in a country right now where donald trump refusing to enforce a law that was passed by congress and signed by his predecessor not eight months ago, that that's a legitimate question. what if trump just doesn't enforce and doesn't follow the law? well, sonia sotomayor mayor had an answer for kavanaugh and for donald trump the way the tiktok ban soft ban would actually work is that it kind of prevents american service providers. you know, the app, the apple app store, the google app store from promoting the service. right. and sotomayor pointed out that the statute of limitat

i completely agree with the speech rights of tiktok and tiktok content creators.an, this case gave me an opportunity to do something that, as a lefty, progressive woke liberal i love doing. it gave me an opportunity to change my mind when i got more facts right. and the facts of the law here are that this country, historically speaking, prevents foreign governments, foreign entities from owning tv and radio stations. that's just the law, right? and so if you think of the free speech rights here, not as of tiktok's free speech, right, but as the free speech right of tiktok's owner, the chinese owned. and according to the government, controlled completely by the chinese government, bytedance. well, then you have to ask, does bytedance is a chinese owned company have a free speech right in america? and the answer legally, somewhat surprising to me, i did not know this before this case started, is really no at all. we just don't do this. and you could go back when i was researching for this case. you can go back to 1985 and we can find that we forced rupert murdoch, a

we want to see tiktok thrive and flourish but that means we want bytedance to sell tiktok.eard the evidence. we have also heard from bytedance that it is very difficult to separate and selloff and they are saying we are going dark on sunday if this is upheld. you will not be able to access this app. does that worry you for the user base? >> this is called negotiating tactics. at the same time we hear this we hear that thanks to your reporting at bloomberg the ccp is entertaining a sale of the company. we in the congress do not have to legislate around the priorities of the chinese communist party. their decision-making is up to them. our law requires bytedance sell tiktok and i hope they comply with the law soon. caroline: would you like elon musk to be that purchaser? rep. krishnamoorthi: i will not make any decisions about who should be the purchaser. let the free enterprise system decide that. suffice it to say i think your previous guest is from the mccourt school in georgetown and frank mccourt for whom the school was named as one of the big bidders for tiktok as well

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in the united states the future of tiktok hangs by a thread.they will support banning the social media app over national security concerns — unless it severs ties with its chinese parent company, bytedance, before a deadline of the 19th of january. representatives from tiktok appeared before the court on friday — as the us government argued that without a sale, the app could be used as a tool for spying and political manipulation by the chinese government. an official decision by the court is due in the next few days. president—elect donald trump, however is critical of the ban, saying he could negotiate a �*political resolution' to keep the app legal once he takes office. cedoni francis is a beauty influencer and relies on tiktok for her business. she explained how a ban would affect her. in full transparency, it would cut my income almost completely in half. you know, i'm a graduate student, so i use my tiktok account to pay my bills. so it would definitely cause some financial strain for me for sure. would you be able to migrate to other pla

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