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jim tillman, you're a very experienced pilot. yesterday we were working on a theory that had come from comments from malaysian officials that this plane had taken a massive detour, almost done a u-turn and gone way off course for hundreds of miles. now we have images released by the chinese which if they are genuine would seem to suggest the plane had in fact stayed on course. and we're therefore getting two completely different versions of events. what do you read into this? >> i read the fact that there's conflicting information. i read into the fact that this is a very frustrating investigation. and i wonder who's really running it. because even this satellite imagery, i really hope it's correct. i really -- that would make things so much better. we would have a chance to nail down some things. but the more i study it, i'm not a radar expert. but i can tell you the more i study it with my eyes it looks like it's the wrong size, the wrong everything else to be the parts of the aim. -- airplane. i know this airplane very well. a

. >> jim tillman, we have a description indicating that it might be three different pieces. you heard those measurements tom costello was talking about. but, of course, it could actually be more pieces of that than different measurement. but based on what we've heard so far, what do those measurements and the size of those pieces indicate? well, lawrence, i really hope these are pieces of the airplane. it will give us some place to start from that makes good sense. but i'm very skeptical about that because the size and the scapes of the pieces that have been described just don't fit the pattern of what could come off of that airplane. that's one thing. the other thing is these pictures were taken i believe on sunday. i don't know how close the actual wreckage would be now if they are still floating or if they are not. so we're still looking and looking with great sensitivity with all kinds of listening devices and all that. but i agree with the u.s. in terms of saying let's keep the patterns that we have going. let's push forward with what we know until we get something bett

pat tillman, a pro football star turned army ranger who gave his all in afghanistan ten years ago.s the runners passed her house, san jose mercury news reporter julia heard a commotion and looked out her window. >> i saw the runners going by, which i was expecting, but then i thought, what are all these people running on the sidewalk for? >> reporter: she soon saw what it was about, her neighbor, joe bell and her cell phone camera caught what was happening. the 95-year-old world war ii veteran had donned his uniform to go outside and cheer on the runners. but when they saw old joe, they moved spontaneously to cheer him. >> thank you for your service. >> thank you. >> reporter: eric whittrick, a stanford student and veteran on a tillman foundation scholarship, reacted instinctively. >> his generation is referred to as the greatest generation and we're just trying to come in second. >> reporter: as for joe, he's a widower now, has had health issues, including hearing problems he deals with by wearing headphones, and has at times felt his life ebbing away. the surprise salute by all t

also back with us is jim tillman.fessor hanson, about all the theories out there about what happened, at this point which seem most plausible to you? >> well, we've got to keep everything on the table but a couple days ago everybody rejected the catastrophic failure idea and now it's pack on the table and that's credible. the original turn-back was towards the closest available airport, so that makes sense. so the initial part actually makes sense, some sort of catastrophic problem. >> when you say catastrophic, you don't mean instantaneous, you mean mechanical issues on board that the pilot had time to try to make that turn to try to find the closest airport. >> sure. yeah, some sort of progressive problem like smoke in the cockpit if you had an electrical fire in the avionics bay or something like that, he would have turned to the nearest airport which would have made sense. under that hypothesis if they became incapacitated or if there was a flight control problem. if there was a flight control problem, they still

let me start with you, jim tillman. we've talked before this week about the various twists and turns quite literally of the fate of this plane. what do you make of these extraordinary new revelations? >> well, they're just about as confusing as everything else i've heard about this event from the very beginning. for example, let's talk about pings. it's my understanding that the devices don't ping until they are hitting water, until they get into water. and the pings went on and all of a sudden stopped over the indian ocean. that's just the opposite of the way that i have always understood them to work. that that should be when they really start going. the other thing is, i got to tell you that i find it very difficult to believe that this captain and his crew decided to just commit suicide out there in the middle of the indian ocean. they didn't have to go that far in order to commit suicide. and they had to know that's where they were. if they were -- if they had some kind of situation on board the airplane that cause

jim tillman, this is from sam. says if we knew that the route was changed, shouldn't we know the destination they entered, like a gps of a car? >> we might, and then again we might not. i don't understand what they had in mind. i've been trying to find the endgame for a long time. until we have a better feel for where they wanted to end up and wanted to do, it's still going to be a mystery. >> this is for jeff weiss. this is from curious 2. the question, is do you think it may have been a dry run for a future plan? scary. lots have been made about that. is it possible that the flight computer was not in the pilot's control, that the change in the course was made by someone remotely to take over and crash a boeing 777 and then ditch the plane in the indian ocean where it would unlikely be found, jeff? >> that's a potential scenario. it seems very remote. i don't think it's physically possible to do that, and to speak to the tweet, i don't think it was a dry run. clearly it was an intentional act, it was a run. we do

jim tillman, here's what andrea says.there have been a threat of something dangerous on board, and the pilots decided to ditch the plane in a remote area? >> it's possible, but they could have put it right in the ocean some time before. >> jeff, is this something they're looking into? >> jeffrey thomas. >> oh. >> i don't believe so. i think they're still very much focused on the human element here. i don't believe this is cargo or fire-related. as suggested in those scenarios, there were many places closer. the big question, to the end of its range, of its fuel onboard, and crash into the south indian ocean. the fire -- crash into the south indian ocean. the theories don't stack up in that area. >> and to jeff wise, does not being able to locate the pingers mean they're not in the water, or are sonars not close enough? >> the latter. they're only designed to be detectible for two miles. so, you want to design the search area based on elements above the surface. so, the answer is we need to get much closer. >> and what's y

and from scott'sdale, arizona, captain tillman, it's great to have you on the program. and thank you very much. >> thank you, john. >> let me start with this new information, and by the way, there are plenty of questions still about exactly where the plane was and where it was last seen, but how do you read this new information? >> it's hard to read it. it might as well be in seven different language that's i don't understand, because every time i turn around, they have a brand-new scenario. this is really what's going on. so much conflicting evidence about what really happened until it's just utterly confusing. i mean, at one point the airplane fell off radar just as it was about to cross into vietnamese airspace, and the next thing, it looks like it did a u-turn and it was going back from where it came from. and no, it wasn't a u turn, it was almost a u-turn and it flew for an hour over the southwest and over a small island. and then no, it didn't make that kind of turn. come on, guys, how about some factual information that you can document and trust to be the straig

joining me now live is aviation analyst, jim tillman and al deal, former ntsb officer and author. i want to begin with you. we really have new bits of information. bun as suzanne was reporting that the flight was not preprogrammed to make this turn. and now also this new satellite data that show as long, slow path into the south indian ocean. i know from speaking with you before you've been convinced that something criminal took place to divert this plane off its path. given what we know now, though, has this changed your analysis of the situation? >> jim, very little has changed. i mean, the most important has changed, if there is one, is the information about what the uk was able to come up with about position of the aircraft and just before it hit the water. but that's just one analysis. we really have a whole lot to analyze before we come up with anything conclusive. for example, exactly how long did it take to go from 35,000 to 12,000 feet? why 12,000 feet? what was the idea there? if it went down as rapidly as i think it did, they probably would have had to have used a speed

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who may be letting his family know something that he felt was important for them to know. >> jim tillman, richard quest is about to jump out of his seat over here. why? >> because of all the flight attendants and pilot friends i've own. unlike you and me that have a phone that we can use at the drop of a hat. they are trapped in a metal tube and they always make calls. >> i have a friend who is a pilot and he texted me saying i'm about to take off, bla, bla, bla. jeff wise, question. this is from sue mason. it says, why is there no satellite footage showing this plane from the time it disappeared just like there is alleged debris? would the plane show up on satellite images during the time it was in the air? >> that's a great question. i wanted to divert the question a little bit. we've been reporting some very significant news, which is a lot of the people on the panel here with me have been pining all week for some particularly significant piece of data, which we finally got. and it's got a lot of value. if you would allow me to explain it a little bit, it might be worth your while. >>

retired pilot jim tillman, and lieutenant colonel michael kay, and geoffrey thomas. get your reaction to what richard and i were having quite a discussion about earlier, to what david said. first with you, mary schiavo. he's saying listen, this could take two years if not more and he believes we've lost the opportunity to hear the pinging on the black boxes. >> well, we may have. but on his idea that it could take two years or more, actually the average aviation investigation takes about 3.5 years, so he was being conservative. >> michael kay? >> yeah, i think one of the big problems we've got here is that the accuracy of the search operation is predominantly based on assumptions. we know from the data that we've got the distance and the arc. what we don't know is how far down the arc south that it's gone. and what is fueling this information is assumptions based information. to it's distance, it's track, it's also altitude, and it's speed. but they're all based on conflicting evidence as what we've seen. we don't know what happened after that last transponder ping.

jim tillman, let me bring you in. do we have this video of the helicopter, u.s. helicopter? this is the first one we've seen, brand new video of a u.s. helicopter taking off to take part in that search. jim, what are they looking for? >> well, they are looking for just about anything, chris, right now. the whole investigation is wide open. we don't even know, as you may have heard earlier, that the crash was in the water. it may very well have ended up on land. there are all kinds of scenarios that are being floated around. you have to be careful, because often times we go in the wrong direction in these investigations. we should take our time, be very, very patient and understand we have the most sophisticated group of people out there and equipment to find the secret to this, and they will. they will eventually find it. how long that will take, i don't know. >> don't you have to start with what the probabilities are here, and i'm wondering what could have happened that was so catastrophic, so fast, that we find ourselves in this position three days later. >> well, there ar

joining me now is jim tillman. how hard would it be for a pilot to pull off the kind of maneuvers necessary to shadow another aircraft without being detected? >> well, it would be difficult. but i'm not of the feeling that these guys would shy away from difficult. because i think this whole thing was planned from beginning to end. i don't know what the end game is yet but i think there is one. this was also a situation that would require great skill and experience to pull off. sure, that kind of a pilot could fly up and fly in formation off a commercial airplane going from here to there. that's a possibility. and it would show up as just one block on the controller scope. but we know that the plane ended up someplace in this area and you've heard tom talk about that. but where did it go from there and if these guys had a good plan, once they got to a certain point, were they just going to say, okay, we're here. can't think of anything else to do. let's just go. let's just go fly into the ocean. i don't think so. >>

captain jim tillman joins us from phoenix. he's a former american airlines pilot. can captain, than -- captain, w. >> thank you. >> suggested the altitude of this flight went up to 45,000 feet, came down to 20,000 feet. what do you make of that? >> i'm very suspicious of those altitude readouts, for one it also indicates they dropped some 40,000 feet in one minute. i don't think there's any way under the sun to make that airplane fly down at that kind of speed. i mean even if the airplane was in pieces and it fell, it wouldn't fell that fast. and if you took the nose down and used power, you couldn't bring it down that fast. >> let's talk about the transponder. how easy is it to turn off the transponder? and why would a pilot do it? >> it's easy to do, it's a switch in the cockpit. i can't imagine a pilot would do it, unless he is doing something, to hide the airplane. >> what about the devices to hide data to the airplane, how difficult is it to turn off those devices? >> it's a little more tricky, there is a secondary circuit breaker called the e and e department

i'm going to bring in aviation expert jim tillman as well as retired special agent jim kavanaugh on the law enforcement analyst. jim, i'm going to start with you because the question on the passports is an interesting development overnight. and the question as to how it was when two individuals would be able to actually board an airplane with passports that should have been invalidated. i want to play a little bit of sound from one of the gentlemen who had his passport stolen and we'll talk about it. >> my passport, nobody can use again, because when they come back to italy, i talk with police for a lock on my lost passport. so then nobody can use. >> so jim cavanaugh, there's a fair expectation. you think you lose your passport and report it as missing and nobody should be able to use it, and yet we know two people were actually able to use missing passports to board this plane. >> right. i mean, it's disgustingly sloppy whether this comes out to be anything related to the crash of the airliner, karen, but when you present a pass port, it is in the interpoll database and stolen two yea

cnn aviation analyst tim tillman joins me now, retired american airlines pilot and president of the tillmanup, and also my former meteorologist in chicago. he knows everything, weather conditions and all about aviation as well. such a pleasure to have you working with us. you heard the piece there. given the new developments tonight, do you think this could have been a pilot suicide like silk air? >> i'm very puzzled by a lot of the things we have been discovering. but look at this, don. if the pilot was bent on suicide, why would he do all this flying in order to get there? he could have done that immediately, right after takeoff. why would he fly for all those hours? was he trying to make up his mind? my goodness. i think more likely, this may have been something where there was a plan to take the airplane some place and land it, then as the time went on and one approach and another approach failed, they realized this is not working, then of course, the pilot or whoever was in charge, may have recognized i'm not going to get away with this, then stuck it in the water. >> let's talk about

to discuss this, we are going to bring in jim tillman.ichael okay is back with us, former pilot and british military officer. jim, i want to start with you. one of the things that has been tossed out there, maybe there was a mechanical problem on this plane. maybe there was an electrical fire, smoke in the cockpit. if you are a pilot in that type of situation, what are you supposed to do? >> you immediately react. smoke and fire really speak to an incredible emergency, because the thing you don't want to do is to get behind it. you have to get on the ground as quickly as you can. you go for the nearest suitable airport. you put your airplane on the ground where you can handle this. the fires that have happened on aircraft, particularly commercial airplanes have been devastating. what can happen is that you don't necessarily see any flame but you get that toxic fumes and smoke off of smoldering wires or insulation or whatever else. it can be incapacitating. you have to get your oxygen mask on and you have to take action to get the airplane

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i want to ask this one, this one is for jill tillman, from steven.ssible the pilots tried to make it to the nearest air strip and realized they wouldn't make it and changed course again? >> yes, that's possible. put we have a conundrum here. the situation was so dire that they couldn't continue and so immediate, that's one thing. but what happened, actual whatever that was, they were able to continue to fly. we have some serious things here. i don't -- to the business of the depressurization either. what does that have to do with transponders and acars. >> wow, go on. that's true. he makes a good point here. >> not only that, they didn't -- we saw martin savidge navigating and going around and doing everything trying to get down, frantically trying to reduce altitude. it is an aggressive maneuver. what we saw on the radar returns was two-minute turn and remaining on heading for over an hour. >> go ahead. >> we need to try to zero in on the things that we can defend. and once you get the transponder an the acars turned off, now the airplane is free, e

joining me now are jim tillman, and aviation expert and former american airlines pilot, and jim cavanaughlyst who has been deeply involved in many high profile investigations, including the unabomber case. >> thank you, reverend al. >> thank you, reverend al. >> jim tillman, let me start with you. abc news is reporting two communication systems shut down simply on the flight. the data reporting system they believe was shuttle down at 1:07:00 a.m. the transponder which transmits location and altitude shut down at 1:21 a.m. what does that tell you? >> well, it first tells me that we're not getting the full story all the time. it's like why didn't someone say this earlier? it would have made a lot of difference in the way we analyzed the data we were getting. what it really means is the system that is automatically sending maintenance information to the ground and the airlines communications, and the transponder is your means of communicating with air traffic controllers electronically to let them though what your aircraft is doing, which direction it's flying, how fast it's going and all th

joining me to hash this all out is jim tillman, an aviation expert and former american airlines pilot. thanks for joining me, jim. >> my pleasure. >> let's begin with the new wall street journal report, do you think it was possible to travel undetected for that many hours and then simply vanish? >> yes. >> how do you think that's the case? would someone have to actively turn off the transponder from within the cockpit? >> well it sounds like the transponders were off. subsequent to that if the crew elected to do so, they could fly what we call map of the earth and bring that airplane down to just a few hundred feet off the deck. and it would be very difficult for most radars to pick him up. the further he got from the prad ar antenna, the more difficult it would be for them to track him. is it possible? yes. but that's just the question, is it possible. to answer that, yes. >> we learned the "uss kidd" is heading to the indian ocean. what type of cooperation is likely going on between the countries, u.s. and malaysia, when it comes to finding this airplane? >> i hope a lot of cooperat

jim tillman, retired pilot. mary schiavo. former inspector general of the department of transportation. thank you very much all of you guys for joining us. mary now represents victims of negligence by transportation companies including airlines. and tom fuentes is a former assistant fbi director. a lot of folks to get tochlt you were plotting with sara. >> it is entirely right and proper that investigators look in to the pilots. of course it is. the police, the criminal, every aspect of it. what has happened in the last few hours, it's taken an unavor i have, unpleasant tone. >> how so? >> because we have sources who aren't named basically saying names of people who it may turn out to be did something wrong. but sara is right. >> they have every right to look in to it. >> of course they document they must. >> you have spoken to an expert on what would have happened to have happen on board for this plane to take this course. what did they tell you? >> look, there's two elements to this. first of all, there's the course change

we're in unchartered territory. >> jim tillman, let me ask you this. a tweet from a viewer, francis tweeted a question. could a plane with an onboard fire remain in flight for six to eight hours with or without pilots? >> yes, it could. when you start thinking in terms what a fire is on an airplane, particularly an electrical fire, it's not necessarily big flames. it may very well be smoldering and smoking. and as big as the threat to you is the fact it's throwing out toxic fumes as opposed to burning through something, whatever. it could take place over a period of time, and if you're not really careful and right on top of it and get an oxygen mask on, you can become incapacitated pretty fast and make a lot of bad decisions before you pass out. >> again, i keep coming back to -- and again, if this is an emergency situation, maybe we shouldn't be looking at any sort of rational light of day but wouldn't the co-pilot have said something in that final communication rather than just okay good night. >> he not only would have said something, anderson, he w

there's no evidence of that. >> let me go to jim tillman. a couple questions. the idea the plane may have turned back to kuala lumpur and not hear a ping out of the ocean? so many questions. you go with your questions. >> we're wondering about the same kinds of things. the radar return that gave the impression the airplane turned back from where it started from, i've seen that return and if it's not any more clear than what i've seen, it doesn't have to indicate an absolute turn. it could be part of an airplane that's breaking up. i'm not convinced about that part. just like i wasn't convinced about the oil slick being jet fuel. it wasn't. so, i mean -- >> where's the ping? where's the ping? >> the pings we're not hearing because, one, maybe that device was damaged to the point that it won't. and two, because maybe we're so far away from it until we're not able to recognize it. i mean, the thing is, we don't know where that airplane went. we just don't that it disappeared from radar and did it in such a fashion that it made it obvious that no one would be able

jim tillman is a former pilot and aviation expert. you heard the malaysian defense minister saying there's no confusion at all. do you agree that assessment? >> i can't believe he's said that. he's obviously not hearing what i'm hearing or seeing what i'm seeing. it's full of confusion. >> how shocking is it that the confusion is over where the plane was? they don't even seem clear on the trajectory of the flight. is that unusual? >> yes, it's unusual. i mean, what was going on on the ground? were they looking at radar? was the radar return giving them anything? and i've been hearing things about the transponders being turned off which would not give full data to the ground as to what the airplane was doing and all that sort of thing. if it was turned off, okay, then you've lost some of your radar control and contact, but not all of it because you still get a blip on primitive radar, i call it. you should be able to track and follow the airplane. >> but, i mean, why would a pilot turn off the transponders, any logical reason for that

and now to help us we have tom fuentes, and jim tillman, and cnn analyst and retired pilot himself, and our own cnn aviation analyst miles o'brien. mile miles, i want to start with you, just for the viewers to i suppose put the expectations into context here. this is the third satellite photo that we have had and treated as a clue, and the first one was really a disastrous mistake, and a chinese satellite as well, and put the search up there in the south china sea, and now we have a photo, and the australians said that there were a lot of planes in the air yesterday, and saw nothing, and how significant of a development is this or does it show just how little progress is made in the investigation that, you know, what they have to latch on to clues like this, because they don't have anything else? >> well, what you said there at the end is the most accurate statement that we can say. in the absence of anything else to look for, you check it out. but we don't even know that it went in that direction, and you know, when you look at that piece, not only is the piece an odd and large shape a

let me bring in jen tillman and richard quest. so, gentlemen, welcome.an, here's my first question to you. i read this opinion piece on cnn.com by robert goyer. he's been talking a lot on cnn. he wrote this whole hypothesis. he writes about the 777 and how altitude is key. and concludes while it's horrific to imagine, a botched hijacking or failed pilot commandeering of the airplane are still the most likely scenarios. do you agree with that? >> i read his piece with great interest because i've had some confirms and skepticism about where we were going and -- >> oh, we losing him? >> we're figuring out your signal, because i can hear you intermittently, jim. richard quest, did you read this piece? what do you make of that notion? >> i did read it. the whole attitude is one that's been doing the rounds. could the plane have gone that far south if it wasn't at 35,000 feet. i've had some pilots e-mail me saying the plane could have done a very long distance, 12,000 feet at a slower speed. i've actually looked at airline charts and fuel burn charts now. but

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it was the third annual race benefitting the pat tillman foundation. he was killed in afghanistan. a nearly 5 mile run/walk started in downtown san jose, finished at santana row. several of our nbc bay area co-workers participated. garvin thomas. we just heard from him. phillip suke. and the last three, without them this show doesn't happen, they were up at 8:00 running, and they're here tonight making sure this happens. >> and they did a pretty good job tonight given the fact they've been up since 8:00 this morning. >> it's almost tomorrow. >> thanks for watching bay area news. goodnight. >>> now his former students return the favor. >> it's unbelievable to look up and see them all. >>> she lost so much in the vietnam war. >> it seems like -- >> but after years of searching, she found the man responsible for giving her a new life in the u.s. >> my dream came true after all these years. >

jim tillman former pilot and expert we appreciate your time. president obama will meet face-to-face with ukraine's minister as they talk wednesday at the white house. both leaders have called the referendum calling it illegal. i want to bring in michael it to make it part of the russian federation. the thing that caught everyone off guard. it forced the president out, it is unthinkable. there is pro russians fighting are pro ukrainians and here the people in the rest of the you crane are stunned that it came to this point and what you are referring to it must have been a complete turn around you had protesters with the west. they wanted a better trade and now they are facing something diff frept. what is the food there they are threatening to cut off natural gas they are putting the check on kieve economically. >> what it speaks to is the complex make up of the country. and you have a large ethnic puplation with russian. some of them hold russian passports as well. and it moved as being threatening in a way. and putin was not being shy in stoki

there was one of those 10k races and it benefited pat tillman.-old world war ii veteran, joe bell. a guy came over and shook his hand and then came a girl, and then one by one the runners shook his hand. he came out just to cheer them on. and you saw this wave of people. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> i love this so much. >> and every person is thanking him. you can watch that video and it goes on and on and on. >> and every single person stops. >> and says thanks. it is beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. >> i love it so much. >> anyway, okay, so let's go on. this is our pop the question contest. we have been asking you to send videos. we found our finalists. these are the four best ones. >> this is stephanie pace and jason kelly. they have been dating two years when jason decided to pop the question. >> this is what he did. he rigged it so she would be surprised during a homecoming pep rally. she's a high schoolteacher. >> stephanie led the school in a cheer. she was asked to stay on the court for a very, very special cheer. >> take a look at this

we have jim tillman and cnn law enforcement analysts the former assistant of the fbi. and miles o'brien. jim, if i can start with you, another day turning up objects that look possibly from several hundred feet in the air like they could be from the plane. some of them more than four to six feet long. when you hear of those dimensions or color does that make you think that it could be parts of this plane? >> yes, it does. because, you know i don't know the dimension ps of the evacuation slides but it falls in that general arena. i don't think it looks like the rafts which are a completely different style and size. but that would be wonderful to find those. >> just a question, would those slides be able to open automaticcly if they were able to open? as i remember how they are hooked up, once they depart the airplane, they inflate. they are attached to like the doors and when you open that door, they flop out and fill up with air and they are ready to float and they are generally, generally capable of carrying several people as you go along. they are pretty sturdy. mile

the race benefits a foundation for army ranger pat tillman, who died in afghanistan. >> that is a fantastic story. >> that is a great story. good to see some grass. evan seen any grass in the long time. visibility is quite low right now. lower visibility indicates note is heavier in your area. our radar continues to show the snow generally it's north of king county and generally north of 80 at this hour. as you can see, it's moving to the east down to the south pier this entire area will sees no today. it's going to be at its heaviest during our rush hour commute this morning as we move to lunchtime. that is the concern. the timing of this note but not the amounts. we will get two-3 in. but it will hit in the rush hour commute. looking into portions of the county the snow is heaviest along this line to the extreme northwest of cook county and to lake county most of that heaviest snow is west of '94. down to the south you can see along 88 right through downers grove we have the potential for quick snow- covered as that snow continues. we are dealing with this note and really a slow commit a

thank you so much, jim tillman. i appreciate it.as teams search for clues, lawyers start the search for answers in the courtroom. we'll tell you about one family's push to learn the truth. mine was earned in korea in 1953. afghanistan, in 2009. orbiting the moon in 1971. [ male announcer ] once it's earned, usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection. and because usaa's commitment to serve current and former military members and their families is without equal. begin your legacy. get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve. >>> nineteen days and counting. we are still searching for flight 370 and everyone on board. the family of one of the victims is heading to court. him, in the middle, is 24 years old. his father has hired a chicago-based attorney. he wants an illinois judge to force boeing and malaysian airlines to open up their records about the plane, the fuselage, the fire systems on board. laurie segall is live. before we get to

joining us to sort through the twists, retired american airline pilot jim tillman and richard joining us in the studio. first, jim what do you make of the report that we're hearing the plane may have continued to fly some four additional hours after contact was lost? >> well, i can tell you that it's as plausible as many of the other scenarios we've heard. sure enough, there would have been enough fuel for the airplane to fly that far. why wasn't it on radar? i don't know. i don't know how low an airplane like that would have to fly to duck under the radar, probably 400-500 feet under the deck. could they manage that? i don't know. the captain had a flight simulator, very so fiphisticaten his home, if you want to follow that reason. you have to follow logic and common sense. there's not a lot of either one of them applied to this situation. >> still, in the vacuum that exists, people are coming up with a range of ideas. the malaysians at this time denying the report from the wall street journal. help me understand richard. what is the technology? explain it to me. >> it's very simple.

. >> i want to bring in jim tillman, a retired aircraft pilot.does this tell you about the last contact with the transponder? >> i'm troubled by the lack of more complete information. i've been looking at the timeline, jake, and it's very interesting to me that conversation that you mentioned that they had, the last known transmission from the cockpit was stated without any emotion or without any indication that anything was wrong. and moments later, literally moments later, the transponderers went off the line. now, what happened in that little time span between everything's okay, roger, have a nice night, and transponderer is off the line and no communication whatsoever after that point? and the other thing is, this thing about the engines communicating with acars on the ground, it's my understanding that transmission is not absolute in terms of by the realtime, this is a precise moment, that the information can be collected and saved and then sent out in bursts of communications through the system. that could happen after the engines may not b

the race benef tillman's foundation, who left the nfl and went to the war after 9/11. everyone, i'm martha mccallum. this is "the kelly file." >>> and this is a fox news alert, the crisis in ukraine continues to escalate. tonight, the pentagon has announced it is sending six team fighter jets and a re-fuelling aircraft to aid the nato forces. and our very own shepard smith flew down to crimea to get a firsthand look on the ground, and he joins us now, shep? >> reporter: and sean, when we got to crimea we were looking for russian soldiers who had been on the ground for days. when we got there, people said no, they're not here, things are much

a pat tillman foundation, 8k race in san jose, california, all of the runners going out of their way to honor a world war ii veteran, joe bell, 95 years of age in his uniform. he es amaizing. a nice tribute to our veterans who have served. >> jesse, putin macho man. he's so macho, i just want to show you a little video, a little highlight reel we put together of putin, you know, being a tyrant and tough guy, there he is, riding around on his little horsey, okay. that's all we have. that's all we had. trying >> it is friday march 7th m hunting for a serial killer. fear paralyzing a community after new evidence reveals a connection in multiple murders. what police need you to hear. >> new jersey's governor chris christie asking the president this. >> if that's your attitude, mr. president, what the hell are we paying you for? >> from the grand interest to the rally cry, we have all of the highlights. >> first the controversial swimsuit cover, now this. the girl scout being urged to cut ties with barbie. is she really a role

jim tillman, retired commercial pilot.just heard from the national transportation safety board managing director, he told cnn that it is possible to turn off the transponders. how difficult or easy is it to turn off a transponder? >> oh, it's not difficult at all. my question, don, goes a little bit further. what was going on from the ground controllers? where were the air traffic controllers that tracked this airplane for everything it does and doesn't do? they should know right away that this airplane is not on course. they should be querying the airplane to find out what are your intentions? and i don't have any reports that there was any inkling made from air traffic controllers in any place. it happened that the transponders were turned off just before entering the vietnamese air space. that means that that was a critical point. that's where the air traffic controllers from one country should be handing them off to the next country. there are questions that go back and forth between air traffic controllers, they shoul