jim tilmon, i'll get you in. i want to talk more about this in a few minutes. >>> when we come right back, what do we know about the pilots of flight 370 or any pilots, as a matter of fact? >>> we're keeping your answers -- keep sending your questions at #370qs. >>> nobody who has ever flown on a plane wants to believe that the pilot and co-pilot aren't doing everything they can to keep the passengers safe. are we flying on blind faith? rosa flores has put together everything we know about the pilot and co-pilot of flight 370 and what airlines do to check pilot backgrounds. >> anxiety erupting. the search growing. >> our priority is to find the aircraft. >> reporter: and new clues surfacing like this video of the pilots as the focus on the cockpit of malaysian airlines flight 370 intensifies. the homes of captain zaharie abdul shah and fariq abdul hamid searched by authorities. they seized this flight simulator. raising questions and feeding theories about what it was used for. >> you can compare one flight to an

also back with us is jim tilmon.rofessor hanson, about all the theories out there about what happened, at this point which seem most plausible to you? >> well, we've got to keep everything on the table but a couple days ago everybody rejected the catastrophic failure idea and now it's pack on the table and that's credible. the original turn-back was towards the closest available airport, so that makes sense. so the initial part actually makes sense, some sort of catastrophic problem. >> when you say catastrophic, you don't mean instantaneous, you mean mechanical issues on board that the pilot had time to try to make that turn to try to find the closest airport. >> sure. yeah, some sort of progressive problem like smoke in the cockpit if you had an electrical fire in the avionics bay or something like that, he would have turned to the nearest airport which would have made sense. under that hypothesis if they became incapacitated or if there was a flight control problem. if there was a flight control problem, they stil

let's bring in the rest of our panel, jim tilmon, david soucie, spider marks.we're going to get into the simulator and into his -- in the pilot's house. but this "all right, good night," i saw some questions today. we actually got one from a veteran pilot, also an american pilot, who says that's not how pilots talk to each other, that he would have to usually say roger and put the call sign in there somewhere. jim, what do you think about "all right, good night." >> well, i've heard both extremes. i've heard guys just casually say, "all right, have a good night," whatever else. most pilots will do exactly what this other gentleman said, they will say, so and so 170 flight level 230 roger or whatever else. or give the frequency that he's been asked to change to and once he says that frequency, then he can be acknowledged on the ground and make sure he has the right frequency if they're going to have to change. i agree that it's out of the protocol, but i'm not sure that it wasn't just somebody that was really casual. >> yeah, i mean this guy was suggesting that

question for jim tilmon.it takes this long every time to find missing planes, shouldn't black boxes be modernized with better technology, jim? >> i don't think there's anything wrong with the technology. it may be something that we want to think about in terms of their accessibility in ditching or a crash. some have suggested maybe we should have something to give you a better chance. >> jeff wise, how much of our minds are conditioned to confusion and seeking blame as the plane rests on the bottom of china sea where it crashed? this is really how preconditioned are question to what is in our minds of what might have happened? >> well, you know, it's a stressful time. when we're under stress, when we're in a fearful situation, it can be difficult to think rationally sometimes. we need to remember to keep a clear head. >> okay. we've got to run. i would love to answer more of these questions and we will when we get back. we have time for more questions for you at home when we come right back. what does an apro

jim tilmon, as a former pilot, what do you make of this?, it's just one more item that we have to try to make sense with. we're talking about all of that radical up and down. one theory was that there may have been a fight in the cockpit, and the struggle that took place caused the airport to do some very strange things. and i do think that's pretty strange. climbing up to 45,000 feet, no pilot in his right mind would try to do that knowing that fulfilling the service altitude you're allowed to operator that airport. it's 2,000 feet above where it should be. and then all of the sudden descending to 23,000 feet. that's far. if you want to buy into that theory, then you got to say okay what happened after words. were they able to settle the airplane down and fly it in some kind of a reasonable fashion afterwards? and where did they get the training to do all of these crazy things? lots of questions, reverend al. >> jim cavanaugh, what do you make of this report? >> you know i've been back and forth with the "politicsnation" team on this data

also back with us is jim tilmon.rofessor hanson, about all the theories out there about what happened, at this point which seem most plausible to you? >> well, we've got to keep everything on the table but a couple days ago everybody rejected the catastrophic failure idea and now it's pack on the table and that's credible. the original turn-back was towards the closest available airport, so that makes sense. so the initial part actually makes sense, some sort of catastrophic problem. >> when you say catastrophic, you don't mean instantaneous, you mean mechanical issues on board that the pilot had time to try to make that turn to try to find the closest airport. >> sure. yeah, some sort of progressive problem like smoke in the cockpit if you had an electrical fire in the avionics bay or something like that, he would have turned to the nearest airport which would have made sense. under that hypothesis if they became incapacitated or if there was a flight control problem. if there was a flight control problem, they stil

back with les avend, ron brown and jim tilmon.ant to ask you about the elt, the electronic locater transmitters, correct? >> that's correct. >> if this plane did hit water that would automatically go off which sends out various kinds of signals both to a satellite and over various frequencies, correct? >> actually if it hits almost anything. if it landed and hit the ground too hard, that thing would go off. it's even used in light aircraft and business jets. it's a means of locating an aircraft or its wreckage immediately after it has struck something out there that's solid. >> so les, the fact that we haven't heard anything from this elt, does that tell you anything? >> it does. >> sorry. the question was for les. go ahead. >> just to correct captain tilmon, the ones that are in the life rafts are strictly salt water activated ones that will only -- >> they actually are in life rafts. >> they are in the life rafts. now, there are some that are portable sometimes in the overhead bins you can remove and in another situation. but we

who may be letting his family know something that he felt was important for them to know. >> jim tilmon, richard quest is about to jump out of his seat over here. why? >> because of all the flight attendants and pilot friends i've own. unlike you and me that have a phone that we can use at the drop of a hat. they are trapped in a metal tube and they always make calls. >> i have a friend who is a pilot and he texted me saying i'm about to take off, bla, bla, bla. jeff wise, question. this is from sue mason. it says, why is there no satellite footage showing this plane from the time it disappeared just like there is alleged debris? would the plane show up on satellite images during the time it was in the air? >> that's a great question. i wanted to divert the question a little bit. we've been reporting some very significant news, which is a lot of the people on the panel here with me have been pining all week for some particularly significant piece of data, which we finally got. and it's got a lot of value. if you would allow me to explain it a little bit, it might be worth your while. >>

. >> there are other people on the panel whose voices need to be heard including jim tilmon. i want to ask you this from joy. i don't understand how if a catastrophic mechanical event the flight flew on for hours. how could it fly? the flight flew for seven hours. it doesn't mean it flew in a direct pattern. we just don't know in which direction but it's that's a great question, jim tilmon. >> is it a great question and there are lots of little bits of this information that have been left by the wayside. all this business about changing altitudes from whatever altitude up to 45,000 to 23,000 and settling on 12,000, all of these things, you know, we need a definite time line that we can slice up just this much time and that much time, this happens there and this happened there so things begin to make some sense. we are running a highly technical situation with reduced common sense. that's a mistake. >> captain skoaly, you investigated the crash of twa flight 800. what do you believe happened? >> it was a completely different scenario with twa flight 800. i see so many differen

there's no evidence of that. >> let me go to jim tilmon. a couple questions.dea the plane may have turned back to kuala lumpur and not hear a ping out of the ocean? so many questions. you go with your questions. >> we're wondering about the same kinds of things. the radar return that gave the impression the airplane turned back from where it started from, i've seen that return and if it's not any more clear than what i've seen, it doesn't have to indicate an absolute turn. it could be part of an airplane that's breaking up. i'm not convinced about that part. just like i wasn't convinced about the oil slick being jet fuel. it wasn't. so, i mean -- >> where's the ping? where's the ping? >> the pings we're not hearing because, one, maybe that device was damaged to the point that it won't. and two, because maybe we're so far away from it until we're not able to recognize it. i mean, the thing is, we don't know where that airplane went. we just don't that it disappeared from radar and did it in such a fashion that it made it obvious that no one would be able to mak

thank you jim tilmon, and tom fuentes, and miles o'brien. >>> and a large object floating this the southern indian ocean raises hopes for some, and it could narrow the search for flight 370. if there is anything to find something else, richard quest will join us to talk about the frustrating hunt for this 777. dear sun, you created light. you are loved. celebrated. but things have changed since you got into this business. at philips, we're creating led light that people can color... adjust... even make beautiful sunsets. dear sun, you might be number one, but we're getting closer. innovation and you philips >>> bad weather could hamper searches here where planes are just taking off. a new satellite image taken by china shows a large object about the size of a tennis court floating in the indian ocean. we have our correspondent richard quest joining us. it would help the viewers to bring together some of the developments today to say where we stand, and first on the search and the investigation, and let's talk about the search. so, you have a new chinese satellite photo looking like the aust

joining me now on the phone, aviation expert jim tilmon.alk about these out slicks on the south china sea. what needs to happen next to find out if indeed a plane went down there? earlier we spoke, it's a matter of trying to understand what kind of oil we're talking about. >> yes. and you don't have to be a chemist to figure that out. jet fuel has a very distinctive aroma of alcohol on it, and a novice would be able to just sniff his way through an analysis to come up with, yeah, that's jet a. n >> no, there was no distress call as far as we know, and that it would simply disappear after radar one hour to two hours after takeoff, what are some of the scenarios that that sort of describes for you? >> well, the one that seems to stick out is the one that none of us wants to admit. and that is, that whatever happened was so catastrophic and so -- so unexpected at all, that the crew had no opportunity to send a distress signal of any kind. there are, while speculation surround this in terms of how this could happen, my feeling is most likely, s

jim tilmon, arthur rosenberg and doctor allan deal, welcome back to you.ere would have to be other objects, bigger objects, more significant objects that would be retrieved from the ocean spotted from a lane to take back to the lab. so i wonder to you first dr. deal, do you feel like this cannot be the only built of evidence collected. do you think this is just a sample of many more items that perhaps this chinese vessel has? >> well, who knows what's aboard the chinese vessel. you would think they would notify the australians if they had found more objects. but the real issue is finding the pingers and we're not looking very hard for those. the resources assigned to the pinger hunt have been totally inadequate. in my opinion. the u.s. navy has over 100 of these p-3s, i don't know how many are still operational. but they could spare a couple dozen of them to look for the pingers. and they're going start toeing that array, which by the way travels at 3 miles an hour, these nuclear subs travel at 30 miles an hour, it can cover a lot more area. >> that's part

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and jim tilmon. i want to pose this to everyone. mary, i want you to answer first.i got an e-mail from someone who i believe is a pilot here, former military. says malaysia air, southern ark into the indian ocean has one interesting possibility, dan. there's an airport nearby there, probably also fuel may be an option. what are the chances? >> well, if it's in the range for the fuel that was onboard in the plane, which the aircraft has a range of 7,250 miles. if that airport is there, it's an option. to refuel the plane, it's 45,000 gallons of jet "a" so would have to be an airport with a big jet fuel tank. but, you know, if it's within that range, then they could make it. >> so, listen, to that term, someone else who's a military friend of mine says, don, tell your graphics guy to overlay common shipping lanes and aviation routes in the indian ocean which goes along with what this person is saying. >> yes, there are a lot of those strips. mary, you know this well and you do. there are a lot of those strips that were built by the u.s. authorities, second world war a

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i want to bring back in retired american airlines captain jim tilmon joining us on the phone. just heard from the airlines themselves. they say search and rescue operations are under way but they have no idea at this point where this aircraft is. >> well, i can understand that. i've been doing a bit of quick research here and found an unofficial site online which is called flight aware. it's one of those tracking services that you can get to track a flight when you have your loved ones flying in, whatever else. this tracking service really has specific information that they list about exact location, latitude and longitude, the course of the heading of the aircraft, the air speed and the altitude and the rate of climb or dessent. it went on as indicated here with the indication they have is 12:02 p.m. eastern standard time at such time there were no more reports. it's just blank. they were at 35,000 feet, according to flight aware, and they had begun to level off when they lost this contact. >> there are obviously a lot of possibilities here. i don't want to go down the road o

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