tim cavanaugh says they ar responsible for the underlying plan itself, including the health and humanretary kathleen sebelius. it's good to have you with us. i don't see them rushing around. >> that's right. i would not hold my breath. there is the perception. and i don't know why that is because presidents go through secretaries and it doesn't seem to affect them. you look at ronald reagan and a lot of the cabinet secretaries, bill clinton, the same thing. there's a perception that if you start firing people it will cause a feeding frenzy or something like that. and i think the will see secretary sebelius and there indefinitely. it's hard to imagine a bigger failure and this is a huge failure. as with all of president obama's greatest failure, exactly when he gets exactly what he wants when he wants it. so it's hard to see any reason not to fire kathleen sebelius. but i would not hold my breath he won the argument, it would be like firing someone who is at the launch of a new product and has a bumpy start like the ipod did for apple. and it took a couple of years for that device to t

with me for tonight's big picture politics panel or tim cavanaugh executive editor the daily caller nate sweet progressive commentator and he knew some member of the national advisory board for the project twenty one black leadership network thank you all for joining thanks to you know. so you just heard my rant on social security true conservatives love flat taxes social security if it were a retirement program and the retirement benefits were limited if it was just a pension i could see limiting the income but forget third of all social security payments are made to people who are not retired their they widows or a disabled people this is really a national social but those are limited to no those are limited to merson meyer is not. to get any more out of social security than anybody else is that's because social security is that it's this fiction that you are you're you're investing for your own future and you're getting back your own money when you come out that's what i want to do that's a part of its game no you know what social security is a ponzi scheme and what you're proposing i