this will still be going on. >> woodruff: tim craig, you're right. such a sad, sad thing to have happened today. we thank you. >> thank you very much. >> woodruff: this was a day for mourning in sydney, australia. the city and nation paid respects to two hostages killed in a day-long standoff yesterday at a downtown cafe. john sparks of independent television news filed this report. >> reporter: today, the people of sydney found a place to meet and grieve after a terrible 24 hours in their city. this makeshift memorial, one city block from the lindht cafÉ, marks the loss of two innocent lives after a self-styled sheik took 17 people hostage. the prime minister, tony abbot, came to pay his respects after admitting there were difficult questions to face. why, for example, was the hostage taker, man haron monis, allowed to walk into that cafeÉ with a gun? >> how can someone who has had such a long and checkered history not be on the appropriate watch lists and how can someone like that be entirely at large in the community? >> three victims lay dead. on

some perspective on that and more from tim craig bureau chief from the washington post. talk about this group of taliban, the ttp. what do you know about them? >> well, they were formed in the aftermath of september 11th. it's confuse k, i think, for a lot of americans and westerners. you have the pakistani taliban. it was domestic militants that formed when the previous pakistan government began aligning with the u.s. to combat al qaeda and the afghan taliban after the september 11 terrorist attacks. it's a group of, you know, home grown islamic militants. they want to implement sharia law in pakistan. they don't have much support in country. they have sympathizers and they do have various supporters. but those pakistanis do not support them. they view them as sort of a fringe element that is sort of -- has no place in pakistan. they have been responsible for a decade of attacks against pakistan army installation and buildings. pakistan lost thousands of soldiers and civilians in these attacks but few know that none of the attacks have risen to the level of this deliber

some perspective on that and more from tim craig, islamabad bureau chief for "the washington post." let's talk about this group of taliban, the ttp. what do you know about them? >> well, they were formed in the aftermath of september 11th. and it gets confusing for a lot of americans and westerners because you have the afghan and pakistan taliban. the pakistan taliban was a creation of domestic islamic militants that formed when the previous pakistan government, pervez musharraf began aligning with the government. it's homegrown militants th s s want to put in sharia law. they don't have much support in the country. they do have sympathizers and they do have, you know, various supporters, but most pakistanis do not support them. they view them as sort of a fringe element that's got no place in pakistan and responsible for nearly a decade of attacks against the pakistan army, troops and installation. pakistan has lost thousands of soldiers and of civilians in these attacks. but few of these -- few -- none of the attacks actually have risen to the level of what we saw today where it w

i want to bring in tim craig, the bureau chief, he joins me from islamabad. let me begin with more of the details. we're hearing these attackers blew up a car to divert attention. they stormed the school shouting god is great and apparently a 14-year-old boy told us one of the attackers said a lot of the children are under benches, kill them. what are you hearing? >> yeah. that's sort of what we're hearing here, you know, that, i've been doing this job for coming to pakistan in and out. and we've covered a lot of these tragedies, terrorist attacks. for a while, they were happening every month here. nothing can compare to what happened today in pakistan. across the country, across the world is just horror that, you know, the gunmen storm the school, and initially we were worried they were hostages, they were going to take hostages. they weren't interested in hostage taking, they were interested in killing. they killed more than 130 students, many of them teenagers, as well as at least seven faculty members in a span of over 3 or 4 hours. >> you know, you can t

host: tim craig, here in the u.s. we saw what happened, different situation, but still a terror attack in sydney, australia. should we be concerned about the taliban here? guest: over the years the f.b.i. and others have raised concern that the pakistan taliban could be capable of carrying out an attack outside of pakistan borders. it has not been much evidence so far that they have been willing to do that or that they are capable of doing that. they have been sort of under siege in many ways. u.s. drone strikes against the taliban as well because they are viewed as a threat. the broader concern for the u.s. and western nations is that as we saw in sydney, australia yesterday, in canada a few weeks ago, there could be copycat attacks, lone wolf attacks of militants who take it upon themself to carry out repeat attacks. host: finally, this is of course -- guest: schools not only here but schools everywhere have always been viewed as we see from school shootings in the united states, are vulnerable targets. whether this

"the washington post's" pakistan bureau chief tim craig visited one of those hospitals and talked to cnn about what he saw. >> a lot of the focus has been on the number of dead but remember more than 300 students were also injured. many shot multiple times and the hospital has been overwhelmed trying to treat so many casualties. parents here standing over their children. children getting bandages changes and redressed. many will likely survive but they'll survive with a lifetime of injury and pain. >> those who were wounded will carry these wounds for a very long time. as you see journalist michele stockman joins trust islamabad to bring us some of the latest on all of this. michele, as i mentioned a few minutes ago it's been a full 24 hours since this all really started so it's still early days but what new information have you been able to gather as far as how the pakistani taliban were able to get into this army school? >> reporter: good morning, errol. well, what we understand is that there was some security at the school but it wasn't very heavy. and it's apparent that these fig

. >> tim craig here in the u.s. we saw what happened, a different situation but still a terror attack in sydney, australia. should we be concerned about the taliban here? >> well, over the years the fbi knows concerns about the taliban could be capable of carrying out an attack outside of pakistan borders. it has not been much evidence so far that they have been willing to do that or that they are capable of doing that. they have been sort of under siege in many ways. u.s. drone strikes do target pakistan taliban, as well, because they are viewed as a threat. i think the broader concern for u.s. and western nations is as we saw in sydney, australia and canada a few weeks ago that there could be sort of copy cat attacks, lone wolf attacks of militants who take it upon themselves to carry out repeat attacks. >> finally, this is -- >> schools everywhere have always been viewed -- >>> second session of today's -- in the name of bilateral conference on northeast asia and the united states. especially we are talking on to

tim times. i was mad at god that day. >> through the tears came applause when mayor nutter promoted craig. >> joyce michelle craig is nowmoted to the rank of lieutenant. [ applause ] >> sky force 10 over a three-mile procession to the cemetery where the fallen hero was laid to rest. her casket draped in an american flag and carried by engine 64. mayor nutter says a memorial is being planned for lieutenant craig. >>> a day of protest against the deaths of unarm eed black men b police. protesters marched around city hall. some carried signs. others handed out black cards with the name of someone killed in an encounter with police. 60 people got down on the ground in memory of the way michael brown and eric garner died. it happened under the city's christmas tree. >> i can't breathe. >> i can't breathe. >> more than 10,000 protesters marched from downtown washington to us capital. civil rights groups organized the march. >> our sons, you know, they may not be here in body, but they are here with us in each and every one of you. you brought them here today. >> the protesters are calling for changes to state, local and natio

tim didn't edit out their other colleagues. >> i regret that they got in trouble or had to have anything to do with it. >> manager karen craig,urger king employee for several years, is sorry too. >> sorry for anything that they think i did. i had no part in it. i feel that burger king has done me wrong. >> burger king released a statement after the incident saying workers are being retrained, and, quote, we have sanitized the sink and have disposed of all other kitchen tools and utensils that were used during the incident. as for macy and tim, they're both living in xenia, and their job prospects have been few and far between. >> there's really no hope of getting a job. at first i was thinking this cancels out restaurant work. but if i go in anywhere, i'm a pretty recognizable person at this point. so if i go in anywhere for a job, this guy is going to give us problems. he's going to be insubordinate. he's chaotic. we don't know what he's going to do. i'm pretty much canceled out of any kind of real job. and if it's not television or music or something like that, then i don't think it's happening at this point. >> fortunately