two photo journalists including oscar nominee tim heatherington were killed covering the front lines. where does this leave foreign policy -- our u.s. foreign policy in the region, martha or as some people like to think nonpolicy? >> i think a lot of people are saying nonpolicy. the policy is basically we'll help the civilian population. we'll help the opposition. but the u.s. role on -- in early april, the u.s. basically turned over control to nato. gwen: right. >> and a lot of those air strikes have not been as effective. the rebels are in desperate shape. and you've got john mccain who's going in there now and saying you rebels are my heroes. let's see what we can do. you got $25 million of aid that the u.s. is now promising. gwen: nonlethal. >> nonlethal aid. but we're talking about body armor. we're talking about transportation trucks. we're talking about equipment. we're talking about that kind of incremental addition to the fight in libya. >> doesn't this just add up to mission creep and the classic sense? what's next? >> what's next is exactly right. because i think about thre

it is when the eye of the world is turned, when the lens of tim heatherington is on to show what is happeningn liberia or chad or sharia lsri lanka that it ch. >> what to do you think the international community could be doing? >> the number one priority of the international community must be to see that civilians are protected. that is a difficult thing to do. gaddafi is not listening very much to the international community. but there are representatives from many other countries is in tripoli they can also speak to the libyan dormant about the many people who have been detained and from whom there is no information about their detention. they are believed to be in government hands and they have simply disappeared from tripoli itself and from regions all over the country where gaddafi is still in control. what happened to those people? the international committee should be raising their cases and demanding answers when they speak to the libyan government. >> do you think this death highlights the humanitarian issues in libya? >> bbc has been covering this story. human rights watch has been