let's get to a member of the tea party caucus, tim huelskamp. speech? >> more of the same. a long laundry list of what the president would like to do, i didn't see many solutions for problems with debts and deficit. no real plan there. no real plan to get 22.7 million americans back to work. it seemed more of the same and i was looking for real solutions and didn't see many of those last night. >> let's play a clip of what he said about bigger government. i picked this one because of what we heard from marco rubio, talked about the size of government. let's start with what the president said first. >> tonight i'll lay out additional proposals that are fully paid for and fully consistent with the budget framework, both parties agreed to, just 18 months ago. let me repeat. nothing i'm proposing tonight should increase our deficit by a single dime. not a bigger government we need, but a smarter government that sets priorities and invests in broad-based growth. >> he seemed to be saying bigger government versus smarter government. and we heard from

with us now is tim huelskamp of kansas. also harvard economist. >> cut spending, not go the other way, as a result, we have 22.7 million americans without a job. the last thing they want to do is take more spenng in washington. gerri: the president says is not what cost this much. >> you are a harvard economist. dozens of new programs have not added anything to the deficit? >> the president is proposing lots of new spending. and a lot more tax revenues. he says he he's going to do it by tax reform. why do people think that that means closing loopholes, broadening the base and lowering the rate simultaneously. what the president wants to do is get more loopholes and of course he will get some more revenue in. that way the overall package may not increase the deficit, but the spending does increase the deficit. gerri: i didn't hear you say all that. kristin, to you. you hen'tnteresting analysis. you said that it was devoid of purpose. and you thought was the weakes job he could have turned in. explain? >> i just felt like it

but there is one group who seems to be happy with washington's gridlock, tea party republican tim huelskampas who told "washington post," i quote this will be the first significant tea party victory in that we got what we set out to do in cranking washington. no, this is the third tea party victory. for more on the stalemate on capitol hill, i'm thrilled to be joined by congressman peter welch, democrat of vermont thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> john: i can only imagine what the mod is in washington, d.c. is there any hints that a deal could be done to postpone them until a deal could be made? >> there really aren't. we were gone last week when we should have been here working on it. essentially you have two things going on. one, a stupid policy in stubborn approach is the substitute for an economic agenda. secondly, there is a few among the tea party folks that you just mentioned that any cut at any price is good for the country. and it makes no sense. the two challenges the country have one get our economic recovery moving along at a faster clip, bring down unemployment. the se

clarence, i want to can you this, tea party congressman tim huelskamp says this will be the first significantea party victory in that we got what we set out to do in changing washington. is it not the case, clarence, that what you just saw is the a speaker who is now back under the control of the tea party? because having two months ago offered $800 billion in revenues through tax loopholes, he now throws that away and is doing exactly what mr. huelskamp and tea partiers would like, which is basically a republican rampage against government? >> it is a ram page against government in the sense that we appear to be heading down toward the deadline and going over another fiscal cliff although we can't call it that now. we're sauking about sequester but it's the same manufactured crisis as president obama called it in the state of the union address. the fact is that the right wing of the republican party doesn't care if government closes down or if these discretionary funded programs are shut down or cut back at this point because they don't think about what the spending buys. voters do think abo

tim huelskamp was one of them. >> it's politics as usual-- petty, vindictive politics. and it was an attempt to consolidate power and continue to centralize decision making in the u.s. house. >> a lot of conservatives are outraged by this... >> there was a fundamental dismantling here in washington of the tea party movement. i think they viewed the tea party movement as something that scared them. today what you see is, "now that we've broken you up, now you're going to do it my way." >> leadership gets rid of challenges... >> narrator: and with the election over, the deadline for the fiscal cliff was less than two months away. boehner made the first move. >> they wanted to get a card out there and put it down quickly. so they prepared a speech and went through 18 drafts. it was tinkered with right there on the teleprompter up until the final moments. >> house speaker john boehner is going to be speaking to reporters. his office says he wants to talk about the fiscal cliff... >> mr. president, this is your moment. we're ready to be led, not as democrats or republicans,

. >> ahead at 6:00, we'll talk more about the state of the union, some analysis from tim huelskamp.o joined by don baer. we'll talk about how the president did and of course the rebuttals, as well. >>> coming up next, a ycruise t remember for all the wrong reasons. the ship adrift, bathrooms that don't work. today there is some light at the end of the tunnel. we'll have a live report just ahead.  reasons. >>> welcome back. the toilets are overflowing. sewage is sloshing around the hallways and they are running out of food. new tales of horror coming from the gulf of mexico where a disabled carnival cruise ship became an island of stranded people. here's how one passenger described how disgusting it is. >> there is sewage when you walk in the hallways. you have to cover your face. it's disgusting. >> i'm sorry if you're in the middle of breakfast this morning. but there is good news to report. a second tug has arrived, passengers say the poet is moving now. and there are even some activities planned for the day. victor blackwell is live in mobile, alabama where t