. >> we're joined now by tim kondo. appreciate that with us today, on the same day that your op-ed page,ning on the opinion we begin by looking back on the department of homeland security , electionof state systems attacked back in 2016, what do you think the lesson was from the attacks? guest: it is important to remember there were 21 states attacked. it was only one state that was briefed according to the -- breached according to the department of homeland security. that means 20 states did their job and defended well against those attacks. if you look at where we are today in 2018, two years later, we are in better shape than we were in 2016. but i will say in 2016, i believe overall we were in pretty good shape. host: we are talking with secretaries of state from around the country today during the next two hours of "washington journal." we are asking them about election security. in your mind, when our voting machines most vulnerable? is it weeks or months before an election? is it on election day when people are v