heart who talked about the fact that san francisco has very high bond ratings -- i think it was tim la carte -- tim lockhar who talked about the fact that san francisco has very high on raising. those are some of the slots but i thought i would mention those, because i thought they were very good ones. hopefully it will begin a dialogue that will answer a lot of the challenges that we have. commissioner borden: i will not say a lot more but just piggyback on commissioner miguel's comments and say that the staff was exceptional. the city hall fellow's a program for recently graduated college students that may have an interest in city government. the idea is to expose the more -- expose them to more departments and hope that the best and brightest will choose to work within cities. this is modeled after a program in new york city. the founder had gone to that program. commissioner wu would know something about it, but it is here in san francisco, and it is interesting because these fellows get paid, and most of the departments are enterprise departments because they have the flexibility. sever