clarity to defrock him if he by a miracle wins his appear you can reinstate him can't you i mean tim lemon the president of the survivors network of those abused by priests i'm sure you know him as well as pelle should have been immediately defrocked makes me speechless he said that they kept him as a cardinal that means he's the prince of the church the 3rd highest ranking member so now we're faced with a situation where survivors have to rely on civil courts to achieve justice because we have not seen that within the church about if there is a conviction he will certainly be defrocked this is my conviction and you've condemned very strongly sexual abuse in the catholic church but you some of your comments appear to watered down your condemnation by pointing out that this kind of abuse is rife in many other parts of society you said in one interview i follow the situation in the us and of late you have accusations against all kinds of religious leaders from different religious denominations the boy scouts and sports teachers university professors medical doctors psychologists police milit

tim all o. the application form referred to it as 225 lemon street but the address is 221. >> got it. thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> linda chapman, from what i hope i don't have to refer to as the late, great knob hill. you know, before most of your time, throughout of '70s and thg to save it. i was the community organizer. although i will not say i wasses the leader. hundreds of people wrote letters or came down here and signed pegs and you have knob hill as it is and we managed to lower the height limits and we've bought highrises that we're werg to demolish our housing and all units would be gone. that's when we got the heights down to 55 to 65 feet. we worked with bob passmore and cbc what would be appropriate, to allow a certain amount of expansion and what if a building burned down? you had to have a garage and four stories. what if commercial building needs a few extra feet and that's why we came up with 65 feet and 50 and so forth. we had the most wonderful relationship with those people, with passmore and all of their staff for years. and when the fighting was over, i