tim lynch runs the project on criminal justice for the cato institute. the system is not as accurate as people think it is? >> it's not. our system is badly flawed. more flawed than many people want to admit, john. as you said since dna evidence came on the scene, we discovered we've got hundreds and hundreds of people who had their lives shattered because they've been thrown in prison for crimes they didn't commit. john: chris christie said without question america has the fairest criminal justice system in the world. >> well, mr. christie i think is wrong. john: he's a former prosecutor. >> he wants to tell people what they want to hear. if the government is getting it right 95% of the time, you know what that means? it means 100,000 people are in prison who don't belong there. so mr. christie, maybe 95% is good enough for him but not good enough for a lot of us. john: people say i bet that 5%, they did something else. they wouldn't have been in there if it hadn't been something? >> finding out so many cases one after the other where there are scandals

tim lynch runs the project on criminal justice for the cato institute. the system is not as accurate as people think it is? >> it's not. our system is badly flawed. more flawed than many people want to admit john. as you said since dna evidence came on the scene, we discovered we've got hundreds and hundreds of people who had their lives shattered because they've been thrown in prison for crimes they didn't commit. john: chris christie said without question america has the fairest criminal justice system in the world. >> well mr. christie i think is wrong. john: he's a former prosecutor. >> he wants to tell people what they want to hear. if the government is getting it right 95% of the time you know what that means? it means 100,000 people are in prison who don't belong there. so mr. christie maybe 95% is good enough for him but not good enough for a lot of us. john: people say i bet that 5% they did something else. they wouldn't have been in there if it hadn't been something? >> finding out so many cases one after the other where there are scandals. pol

tim lynch runs the project on criminal justice for the cato institute. the system is not as accurate as people think it is? >> it's not. our system is badly flawed. more flawed than many people want to admit john. as you said since dna evidence came on the scene, we discovered we've got hundreds and hundreds of people who had their lives shattered because they've been thrown in prison for crimes they didn't commit. john: chris christie said without question america has the fairest criminal justice system in the world. >> well mr. christie i think is wrong. john: he's a former prosecutor. >> he wants to tell people what they want to hear. if the government is getting it right 95% of the time you know what that means? it means 100,000 people are in prison who don't belong there. so mr. christie maybe 95% is good enough for him but not good enough for a lot of us. john: people say i bet that 5% they did something else. they wouldn't have been in there if it hadn't been something? >> finding out so many cases one after the other where there are scandals. pol

lynch as the keynote speaker. reporting live in center city rosemary conyers nbc10 news. >> president obama's speech focused on giving people a second chance even if they've committed a crime. >> as timfurlong shows us it's having a real impact. >> interesting to watch the president's speech on more fairness in the justice system. with those who have spent lots of time in it coli spent 16 years in prison because -- >> i shot a man and subsequently he passed away. >> his crime hurt his victim's family, he knows he can't run from his own past. >> at the end of the day, someone can always judge me on the very worst deed i've done in my life and it happens. it comes up. >> the president is called for changes that lead toward more rehabilitation. delaware has already made some changes in that direction. in delaware the prisons are crowded and it costs a fortune to keep people locked up. so many people that come out of the prisons come out of there anyway. let's spend the money more wisely, spend it investigating issues that cause people to commit crimes in the first place. >> delaware is trying to help more offenders get back into society. the state will return driver's licenses to nonvio